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Mon, 30 Mar 2026 12:40:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.zoho.eu by mx.zoho.eu with SMTP id 1774867223428968.7644276226767; Mon, 30 Mar 2026 12:40:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2026 11:40:23 +0100 From: Herbert To: Cc: , , , , , , , , , , , Message-ID: <19d3e549383.7e0593a963940.1231119311770329278@objecting.org> In-Reply-To: <11429699-81b4-4c1e-b247-480136fd1faf@kernel.org> References: <20260326072737.341964-1-objecting@objecting.org> <14366e29-4ee2-490e-8e4a-0c5cace1f313@lucifer.local> <04B79050-4353-4FD2-A596-1474BDB94B3F@objecting.org> <043CED5F-7014-4776-824E-07E027B7BDC3@objecting.org> <82256A72-42FD-475E-935C-629964FA80E7@objecting.org> <11429699-81b4-4c1e-b247-480136fd1faf@kernel.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/damon: introduce DAMON-based NUMA memory tiering module MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Importance: Normal User-Agent: Zoho Mail X-Mailer: Zoho Mail X-Rspamd-Server: rspam01 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: F3A8940012 X-Stat-Signature: 5qoou18tpo4ft1fh379k8coey8z4fqyp X-Rspam-User: X-HE-Tag: 1774867237-149489 X-HE-Meta: U2FsdGVkX18Gbm93EZsTM7o2aVxxOmeRW4GL/+fe8ctpLBtMiQg5GUL6NaKYpZU9rpGvMA41PWRFJwn35L1ityZcomT6FLBpT22o4HjVIB+hOYIcyOkuJQsZTwYA9Nj78rlm7Y1NsRJ6Z9uuktY3/AwOxF3Q5OxIoJhtHYPP4JsLe7j3pDTNmNQ8/1tWyyz0oW7SldCyWOXGVH8SjzCrsmr7ZkZTZeWDkncv85Gtxy0+J+j+vxv/7W/6RBsxw4kT+QXXPeYSk9wFDyuXXdKBlVi7ePeCjBmag7wmXOoXnkvTXq32f/kx7MgDGYVUYMGlfiigTZXGV+MVZ3K8RJUeAwryecFZPZnAlplOu4YaOVc7OE/YXHaOiLBQSeVjqpJHJV1l9ITdjUFt+CIRUKRuPYySv/xxthoBaeaHNAR5dXvnpKPVdNeqdbdxExmt6YZYAzNdOzgKvILIEqzY2pfTi5mY+kbPG5y2zyNdjQxsco5O22TRUfSvCjrW9sr02DsaRLWuJSdc89EiI4it9kRJRDxb4GvyNGVKnzGOJJ/NO3cyV6T1tlQUi9HgFibGFYa6/DD/tkj3A6375VK5Wgs8DUMKYH6sU20v39RJnhctVX60Qxc8yj1ZYxrVqUrL0F4dMRLu2O7DaflfMAKK5RrTVmH06f+x67eTIDVqgpGsRjsts4cgFEmNSyl9c9yjSBkLOLVSHMsABTWk0GZQNXXi5z7qb82Lx9a1EhLwOhBTseF+gB/UALk1xMtPoQ3IuunpJWCBGdnEvIHDWOR/KJ0F17O39+5Y6BL5Qr5wwF8GGFrHxLrkNpUjbFVGMchDhutTKVay1SpwJPuCxY/rLNPinnvc9jwlOXKpPrRFWRIiMucO5qlJ6XDeYdJPGgFoPDwDdmX9ofx83rJnFexHLbE5Kdo26lZPKxlW9eF+iNXVWdduAq2uOHVd/Rl8Ct91tPNMiMGPl55zbivQVhXe2XC HFHujwyq HThEVVkGyMcaUfZamlCrtAtcvBRSno8HpUhfVfvsmSjEqYbZjXfXf3ic/dQWP79Lv4wVRXOvNQf7PM9bXlZ07hXm1iY8j5iYEqxo4dD90vptgPOtKwkCnKsmey+uamkaPVDfrpd7ec+zd6b7qsMpXsoq+06j5qcBUT4E4PRNn54ZAbH+l+4HZDW5k8hwtBAAXX0bCG3t4gxq1tDAYA+TDeH0/tW2+oyTvizmzsMmXGRq8p0aKtdFlROtUcy3pM6FjfPq+X7a8MiDw2aYWvYWMOCVxSkfX/8ensyZUWIXJPU1rMgPhrKCcyzFBTNkp0K5SKQqa7d/ZbbNiJRTZ8tn/nQwj5g== Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Ll> >> > > > > > > Hello david, thanks for being polite about this whole thing! > > > > > > so, you are talking to a real human, i promise you that now > > That's exactly, what I would say if I were a bot ;) Well, I don't know what else to say. I have matrix and irc I guess, I can p= rove I'm human > As a first step, fix the line wrapping. The following document was > helpful to me in the past: > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Documentation/process/email-clients.rst Yeah.. mobile clients hurt me, I tried thunderbird and it didn't come with = word wrapping (I was a bit angry at that), I am mostly away from my pc, (th= e place I do patches!) > > > > > > I am looking for people to personally mentor me, so i succseed in the k= ernel > > > > And, I know this is unprofessinal (and im sorry!), but my github is my = best > friend, i have a year worth of commits for you to see publicly, also i wo= rk > with android custom roms. (Any questions, feel free to ask!) > > > > > > > > So yes, this is my oppotunity to be honest, > > > > > > (Yes. I do use AI!) > > > > > > The reason why, is im a "perfectionist", i want to start human patches,= but > im scared i will get ripped apart, (or i wont get like reviewership!! Bec= ause > im too slow) so i use claude (smartest ai in the market), and i regret it= . > Like seriously! > > There is this nice saying "we learn from our mistakes". > > I still remember the first time Linus ripped apart one of my patches. I > learned something that day. Exactly! Mistakes happen, you learn from them, (I was stupid for breaking m= y break...) > > > > Additionally, i hate being slow, im scared that the community will ditc= h me > if i do 1 human patch every 2-4 weeks, which is my expected time (because= i > need to understand the code!!!!!) > > > > > Well, doing 8 versions of one patch set a day is obviously the other > extreme ;) For example, there is this unwritten rule to wait ~1 week > (and before discussions slowed down) before sending another revision. > There are exceptions of course. Yeah, was stupid of me ngl > In general, we're lacking reviewers, not code contributors. So we really > need people that can get familiar with the code and gain expertise, to > help the project long term. I sure can review code. I do review code for people who ask for my custom R= OM stuff, basically they need kernel trees for it to build and stuff basica= lly. > Drive-by AI generated patches that mostly just consume more of the > precious maintainer+reviewer time are rather counter-productive. Yeah. Very stupid of me > > > > I would love to have a mentor to help me around, and when (if) somebody > wants to, i promise you now, i will start making human patches, and i wil= l > benefit the community positively, > > > > I think you had some patches accepted my maintainers, you might want to > consider reaching out to them to see if they would be willing to help. To be fair, Masami is extremely busy, so is seong, Andrew is "Stupidly busy= " (his words), which is understandable because he maintains lib/ and some o= f mm/ > But be aware that most people are extremely busy. Same point ^ > -- > Cheers, > > David V/R Josh Law