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From: kanoj@google.engr.sgi.com (Kanoj Sarcar)
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: andrea@suse.de, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, sct@redhat.com,
	Gerhard.Wichert@pdb.siemens.de, Winfried.Gerhard@pdb.siemens.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [bigmem-patch] 4GB with Linux on IA32
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:50:42 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <199908170650.XAA95856@google.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9908162339360.1048-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> from "Linus Torvalds" at Aug 16, 99 11:41:50 pm

> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, Kanoj Sarcar wrote:
> > 
> > As I pointed out before, I don't think rawio is the only case which
> > breaks.
> > 
> > I will give you one example of the type of cases that I am talking about.
> > In drivers/char/bttv.c, VIDIOCSFBUF ioctl seems to be setting the "vidadr"
> > to a kernel virtual address from the physical address present in the 
> > user's pte. This will not work for bigmem pages.
> 
> This is exactly why I have always been adamant that people should NOT do
> direct IO and try to walk the page tables. But people have ignored me, and
> quite frankly, those drivers should just be broken. The painful part is
> finding out which of them do it, but once done they should just be broken
> wrt bigmem, no questions asked.
> 
> 		Linus
> 

The *only* way to prevent this really is to make code like this uncompilable.
That is, prevent definitions like pte_page, PAGE_OFFSET, __va, __pa etc
from being in header files; rather make the driver/fs code invoke specific
routines that do virt-to-phys etc translations. Granted, this might be a
little costlier, but in most cases, this extra cost will be in driver code
that is not performance sensistive anyway. There really should be some
ddi/dki that drivers have to follow. 

Btw, my vote goes for finding and fixing all such driver code, instead 
of just breaking them for bigmem machines.

Kanoj
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  reply	other threads:[~1999-08-17  6:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-08-16 16:29 Andrea Arcangeli
1999-08-16 16:48 ` Matthew Wilcox
1999-08-16 17:19   ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-08-16 18:43 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-08-16 19:43   ` Alan Cox
1999-08-16 20:54     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-08-16 22:47       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-08-16 23:26         ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-08-16 23:39           ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-08-17  0:10             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-08-17  6:37               ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-08-17  6:41                 ` Linus Torvalds
1999-08-17  6:50                   ` Kanoj Sarcar [this message]
1999-08-17  7:03                     ` Linus Torvalds
1999-08-17  7:23                       ` Linus Torvalds
1999-08-17 11:39                         ` Alan Cox
1999-08-26 16:27                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-08-17 11:46                     ` Alan Cox
1999-08-17 14:26             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-08-17  6:39           ` Linus Torvalds
1999-08-17 12:40             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-08-17  6:29         ` Linus Torvalds
1999-08-17 12:37           ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-08-17 14:04             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-08-17  8:52         ` Jakub Jelinek
1999-08-17  9:13         ` Pavel Machek
1999-08-18 14:08           ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-08-19 12:20             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-08-16 23:28       ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-08-16 23:49         ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-08-17  6:29         ` David S. Miller
1999-08-17 12:38           ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-08-17  0:17       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-08-19 13:33         ` Thierry Vignaud
1999-08-19 16:49           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-08-20  7:35             ` Thierry Vignaud
1999-08-20  9:55               ` Alan Cox
1999-08-20 18:25               ` Linus Torvalds
1999-08-16 20:34   ` Andrea Arcangeli

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