From: kanoj@google.engr.sgi.com (Kanoj Sarcar)
To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: filecache/swapcache questions
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:36:37 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <199906211736.KAA17592@google.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <14190.28416.483360.862142@dukat.scot.redhat.com> from "Stephen C. Tweedie" at Jun 21, 99 05:57:36 pm
>
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:46:19 -0700 (PDT), kanoj@google.engr.sgi.com
> (Kanoj Sarcar) said:
>
> > I don't agree with you about swapoff needing the mmap_sem. In my
> > thinking, mmap_sem is needed to preserve the vma list, *if* you
> > go to sleep while scanning the list. Updates to the vma fields/
> > chain are protected by kernel_lock and mmap_sem.
>
> No. mmap_sem protects both the vma list and the page tables. Page
> faults hold the mmap semaphore both to protect the vma list and to
> protect against concurrent pagins to the same page.
>
> The swapper is currently exempt from the mmap_sem, so the paging code
> needs to check whether the current pte has disappeared if it ever
> blocks, but it assumes that we never have concurrent pagein occurring
> (think threads). swapoff currently breaks that assumption.
>
But doesn't my previous logic work in this case too? Namely
that kernel_lock is held when any code looks at or changes
a pte, so if swapoff holds the kernel_lock and never goes to
sleep, things should work?
Maybe if you can jot down a quick scenario where a problem occurs
when swapoff does not take mmap_sem, it would be easier for me
to spot which concurrency issue I am missing ...
Thanks.
Kanoj
kanoj@engr.sgi.com
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~1999-06-21 17:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-06-21 5:29 Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-21 11:25 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-21 16:46 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-21 16:57 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-21 17:36 ` Kanoj Sarcar [this message]
1999-06-21 17:49 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-21 18:46 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-21 23:44 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-24 22:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-24 23:55 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-25 0:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-28 1:48 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 10:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-28 17:11 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 16:32 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 17:25 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 20:40 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 21:11 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 22:12 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 23:43 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-29 11:44 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 22:01 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-30 17:28 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-30 18:05 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 19:39 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 19:55 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 20:33 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 20:51 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 21:32 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 21:38 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 21:50 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 22:15 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-29 11:23 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 17:36 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 22:22 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:21 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-29 2:13 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-29 12:01 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 12:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-30 15:59 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 1:00 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 22:08 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-29 0:53 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-29 11:14 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:09 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 20:45 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 21:14 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 21:25 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 22:15 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-29 1:29 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-29 11:58 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 12:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-29 15:27 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-29 11:55 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 20:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-28 22:36 ` filecache/swapcache questions Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 23:24 ` Kanoj Sarcar
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1999-06-15 7:16 Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-15 7:32 ` Rik van Riel
1999-06-15 15:51 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-15 20:24 ` Rik van Riel
1999-06-15 21:02 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-16 20:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-17 23:33 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-18 0:20 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-18 17:00 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-18 17:03 ` Kanoj Sarcar
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