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From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
	Savochkin Andrey Vladimirovich <saw@msu.ru>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@e-mind.com>,
	steve@netplus.net, "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm+eric@ccr.net>,
	brent verner <damonbrent@earthlink.net>,
	"Garst R. Reese" <reese@isn.net>,
	Kalle Andersson <kalle.andersson@mbox303.swipnet.se>,
	Zlatko Calusic <Zlatko.Calusic@CARNet.hr>,
	Ben McCann <bmccann@indusriver.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	bredelin@ucsd.edu, linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu,
	Rik van Riel <H.H.vanRiel@phys.uu.nl>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: MM deadlock [was: Re: arca-vm-8...]
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:18:10 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <199901102218.WAA01598@dax.scot.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990110103201.7668D-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>

Hi,

On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:35:10 -0800 (PST), Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@transmeta.com> said:

> The thing I want to make re-entrant is just semaphore accesses: at the
> point where we would otherwise deadlock on the writer semaphore it's much
> better to just allow nested writes. I suspect all filesystems can already
> handle nested writes - they are a lot easier to handle than truly
> concurrent ones.

We used to do it anyway, before inodes were locked for write, if I
remember correctly.  

What I'm after is something like the patch below for a fix (don't apply
it: it should work and should fix the problem, but it's really just for
illustration).  It enforces an i_atomic_allocate semaphore to lock
against truncate().  The write-page filemap code takes this semaphore,
but does _not_ take i_sem at all.  

Frankly, I really don't think we want to serialise writes so
aggressively in the first place.  In POSIX, O_APPEND is the only case
where we need to do this (and since that modifies i_size, it's a natural
case to do under the i_atomic_allocate semaphore in any case).

This patch should fix the problem in hand, but what I think we really
want is a read/write semaphore for i_atomic_allocate: we want normal
read and write IO to a file to guard against a concurrent truncate(),
but _not_ against each other (in situations such as threaded/async IO to
a database file, multiple outstanding IOs can be a big win).  Basically,
most writes should take out a read lock on the filesize so that the file
won't disappear from under their feet; only extending or truncating the
file should take out an i_atomic_allocate write lock (assuming the same
sorts of semantics for r/w semaphores as we already have for r/w
spinlocks).

Are there really any filesystems we know can't deal with
concurrent/reentrant writes to an inode?  We already have to deal with
concurrent reads with a single write in progress, after all.

--Stephen

----------------------------------------------------------------
--- fs/inode.c.~1~	Fri Jan  8 16:13:05 1999
+++ fs/inode.c	Sun Jan 10 21:58:46 1999
@@ -132,6 +132,7 @@
 	INIT_LIST_HEAD(&inode->i_dentry);
 	sema_init(&inode->i_sem, 1);
 	sema_init(&inode->i_atomic_write, 1);
+	sema_init(&inode->i_atomic_allocate, 1);
 }
 
 static inline void write_inode(struct inode *inode)
--- fs/open.c~	Fri Jan  8 17:24:19 1999
+++ fs/open.c	Sun Jan 10 21:59:49 1999
@@ -70,6 +70,7 @@
 	int error;
 	struct iattr newattrs;
 
+	down(&inode->i_atomic_allocate);
 	down(&inode->i_sem);
 	newattrs.ia_size = length;
 	newattrs.ia_valid = ATTR_SIZE | ATTR_CTIME;
@@ -81,6 +82,7 @@
 			inode->i_op->truncate(inode);
 	}
 	up(&inode->i_sem);
+	up(&inode->i_atomic_allocate);
 	return error;
 }
 
--- include/linux/fs.h.~1~	Sun Jan 10 21:56:23 1999
+++ include/linux/fs.h	Sun Jan 10 21:58:39 1999
@@ -358,6 +358,7 @@
 	unsigned long		i_nrpages;
 	struct semaphore	i_sem;
 	struct semaphore	i_atomic_write;
+	struct semaphore	i_atomic_allocate;
 	struct inode_operations	*i_op;
 	struct super_block	*i_sb;
 	struct wait_queue	*i_wait;
--- mm/filemap.c~	Fri Jan  8 16:13:06 1999
+++ mm/filemap.c	Sun Jan 10 22:01:52 1999
@@ -1113,9 +1113,9 @@
 	 * and file could be released ... increment the count to be safe.
 	 */
 	file->f_count++;
-	down(&inode->i_sem);
+	down(&inode->i_atomic_allocate);
 	result = do_write_page(inode, file, (const char *) page, offset);
-	up(&inode->i_sem);
+	up(&inode->i_atomic_allocate);
 	fput(file);
 	return result;
 }


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     [not found] <199812290146.BAA12687@terrorserver.swansea.linux.org.uk>
1998-12-31 18:00 ` 2.2.0 Bug summary Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-31 18:34   ` [patch] new-vm improvement [Re: 2.2.0 Bug summary] Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-01  0:16     ` Steve Bergman
1999-01-01 17:16       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-01 16:44     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-01 20:02       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-01 23:46         ` Steve Bergman
1999-01-02  6:55           ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-02  8:33             ` Steve Bergman
1999-01-02 14:48             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-02 15:38             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-02 18:10               ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-02 20:52               ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-03  2:59                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-04 18:08                   ` [patch] arca-vm-6, killed kswapd [Re: [patch] new-vm improvement , [Re: 2.2.0 Bug summary]] Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-04 20:56                     ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-04 21:10                       ` Rik van Riel
1999-01-04 22:04                       ` Alan Cox
1999-01-04 21:55                         ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-04 22:51                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-05  0:32                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-05  0:52                               ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-05  3:02                               ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-05 11:49                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-05 13:23                                   ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-05 15:42                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-05 16:16                                       ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-05 15:35                               ` arca-vm-8 [Re: [patch] arca-vm-6, killed kswapd [Re: [patch] new-vm , improvement , [Re: 2.2.0 Bug summary]]] Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-06 14:48                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-06 23:31                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-07  3:32                                     ` Results: 2.2.0-pre5 vs arcavm10 vs arcavm9 vs arcavm7 Steve Bergman
1999-01-07 12:02                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-07 20:27                                         ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-07 23:56                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-07 17:35                                       ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-07 18:44                                         ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-07 19:33                                           ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-07 21:10                                             ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-07 19:38                                           ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-07 19:40                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-09  6:28                                           ` 2.2.0-pre[56] swap performance poor with > 1 thrashing task Dax Kelson
1999-01-09  6:32                                             ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-09  6:44                                               ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-09 18:58                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-11  9:21                                                 ` Buffer handling (setting PG_referenced on access) Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-11 17:44                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-11 20:14                                                     ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-16 17:35                                                 ` 2.2.0-pre[56] swap performance poor with > 1 thrashing task Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-09  7:48                                             ` Benjamin Redelings I
1999-01-09  6:53                                               ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-09 22:39                                       ` Results: pre6 vs pre6+zlatko's_patch vs pre5 vs arcavm13 Steve Bergman
1999-01-10  0:28                                         ` Steve Bergman
1999-01-10  5:35                                           ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-10 18:33                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-10 18:43                                             ` Steve Bergman
1999-01-10 19:08                                               ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-10 19:23                                                 ` Vladimir Dergachev
1999-01-10 20:09                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-10 20:29                                                 ` Steve Bergman
1999-01-10 21:41                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-10 23:33                                                     ` testing/pre-7 and do_poll() Chip Salzenberg
1999-01-11  6:02                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-11  6:26                                                         ` Chip Salzenberg
1999-01-11  6:46                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-11  6:59                                                             ` Chip Salzenberg
1999-01-11  7:02                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-11 22:08                                                                 ` Shawn Leas
1999-01-11 22:13                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-12  0:25                                                                     ` estafford
1999-01-12  8:25                                                                       ` Shawn Leas
1999-01-12  7:06                                                                     ` Gregory Maxwell
1999-01-11 20:20                                                       ` Adam Heath
1999-01-11 16:57                                                   ` Results: pre6 vs pre6+zlatko's_patch vs pre5 vs arcavm13 Steve Bergman
1999-01-11 19:36                                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-11 23:03                                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-11 23:38                                                         ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-12  2:02                                                         ` Steve Bergman
1999-01-12  3:21                                                           ` Results: Zlatko's new vm patch Steve Bergman
1999-01-12  5:33                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-12 14:49                                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-12 16:58                                                               ` Joseph Anthony
1999-01-12 18:16                                                                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-12 20:15                                                                   ` Michael K Vance
1999-01-13 19:25                                                                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-12 18:24                                                               ` Michael K Vance
1999-01-13  0:01                                                               ` Where to find pre7. Was: " Robert Thorncrantz
1999-01-13 20:47                                                             ` [patch] arca-vm-19 [Re: Results: Zlatko's new vm patch] Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-14 12:30                                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-15 23:56                                                                 ` [patch] NEW: arca-vm-21, swapout via shrink_mmap using PG_dirty Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-16 16:49                                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-17 23:47                                                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-18  5:11                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-18  7:28                                                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
1999-01-18 10:00                                                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-18  9:15                                                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-18 17:49                                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-18 19:22                                                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-10 20:40                                               ` Results: pre6 vs pre6+zlatko's_patch vs pre5 vs arcavm13 Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-10 20:50                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-10 21:01                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-10 21:51                                                     ` Steve Bergman
1999-01-10 22:50                                                       ` Results: arcavm15, et. al Steve Bergman
1999-01-11  0:20                                                         ` Steve Bergman
1999-01-11 13:21                                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-11  3:47                                         ` Results: pre6 vs pre6+zlatko's_patch vs pre5 vs arcavm13 Gregory Maxwell
1999-01-06 23:35                                   ` arca-vm-8 [Re: [patch] arca-vm-6, killed kswapd [Re: [patch] new-vm , improvement , [Re: 2.2.0 Bug summary]]] Linus Torvalds
1999-01-07  4:30                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
1999-01-07 17:56                                       ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-07 18:18                                         ` Rik van Riel
1999-01-07 19:19                                           ` arca-vm-8 [Re: [patch] arca-vm-6, killed kswapd [Re: [patch] Alan Cox
1999-01-07 18:55                                         ` arca-vm-8 [Re: [patch] arca-vm-6, killed kswapd [Re: [patch] new-vm , improvement , [Re: 2.2.0 Bug summary]]] Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-07 22:57                                         ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-08  1:16                                           ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-08 10:45                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-08 19:06                                               ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-09  9:43                                           ` MM deadlock [was: Re: arca-vm-8...] Savochkin Andrey Vladimirovich
1999-01-09 18:00                                             ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-09 18:41                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-10 21:41                                                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-10 21:47                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-09 21:50                                               ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-10 11:56                                                 ` Savochkin Andrey Vladimirovich
1999-01-10 17:59                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-10 22:33                                                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-10 16:59                                                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-10 18:13                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-10 18:35                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-10 19:45                                                     ` Alan Cox
1999-01-10 19:03                                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-10 21:39                                                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-10 19:09                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-10 20:33                                                         ` Alan Cox
1999-01-10 20:07                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-10 22:18                                                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
1999-01-10 22:49                                                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-11  6:04                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
1999-01-12 16:06                                                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-12 17:54                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-12 18:44                                                             ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-12 19:05                                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-13 17:48                                                                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-13 18:07                                                                   ` 2.2.0-pre6 ain't nice =( Kalle Andersson
1999-01-13 19:05                                                                   ` MM deadlock [was: Re: arca-vm-8...] Alan Cox
1999-01-13 19:23                                                                     ` MOLNAR Ingo
1999-01-13 19:26                                                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-14 11:02                                                                       ` Mike Jagdis
1999-01-14 22:38                                                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-15  7:40                                                                       ` Agus Budy Wuysang
1999-01-14 10:48                                                                   ` Mike Jagdis
1999-01-12 21:46                                                               ` Rik van Riel
1999-01-13  6:52                                                                 ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-13 13:45                                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-13 13:58                                                                   ` Chris Evans
1999-01-13 15:07                                                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-13 22:11                                                                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-13 14:59                                                                   ` Rik van Riel
1999-01-13 18:10                                                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-13 22:14                                                                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-14 14:53                                                                         ` Dr. Werner Fink
1999-01-21 16:50                                                                           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-21 19:53                                                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-22 13:55                                                                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-22 19:45                                                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-23 23:20                                                                             ` Alan Cox
1999-01-24  0:19                                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-24 18:33                                                                                 ` Gregory Maxwell
1999-01-25  0:21                                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-25  1:28                                                                                     ` Alan Cox
1999-01-25  3:35                                                                                       ` pmonta
1999-01-25  4:17                                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-24 20:33                                                                                 ` Alan Cox
1999-01-25  0:27                                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-25  1:38                                                                                     ` Alan Cox
1999-01-25  1:04                                                                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-25  2:10                                                                                         ` Alan Cox
1999-01-25  3:16                                                                                           ` Garst R. Reese
1999-01-25 10:49                                                                                             ` Alan Cox
1999-01-25 14:06                                                                                           ` Rik van Riel
1999-01-25 21:59                                                                                       ` Gerard Roudier
1999-01-26 11:45                                                                                         ` Thomas Sailer
1999-01-26 20:48                                                                                           ` Gerard Roudier
1999-01-26 21:24                                                                                             ` Thomas Sailer
1999-01-27  0:25                                                                                             ` David Lang
1999-01-27 16:05                                                                                             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-27 20:11                                                                                               ` Gerard Roudier
1999-01-26 13:06                                                                                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-26 14:28                                                                                           ` Alan Cox
1999-01-26 14:15                                                                                             ` MOLNAR Ingo
1999-01-26 14:36                                                                                               ` yodaiken
1999-01-26 15:21                                                                                                 ` MOLNAR Ingo
1999-01-27 10:31                                                                                                   ` yodaiken
1999-01-26 15:46                                                                                                 ` Alan Cox
1999-01-26 16:45                                                                                                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-30  7:01                                                                                                     ` yodaiken
1999-02-01 13:07                                                                                                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-26 16:37                                                                                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-27 11:35                                                                                               ` Jakub Jelinek
1999-01-26 14:21                                                                                             ` Rik van Riel
1999-01-25 16:25                                                                                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-25 16:52                                                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-25 18:27                                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-25 18:43                                                                                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-25 18:49                                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-25 18:43                                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-25 19:15                                                                                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-26  1:57                                                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-26 18:37                                                                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-27 12:13                                                                                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-22 16:29                                                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
1999-01-25 13:14                                                                             ` Dr. Werner Fink
1999-01-25 17:56                                                                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-25 19:10                                                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-25 20:49                                                                                 ` Dr. Werner Fink
1999-01-25 20:56                                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-26 12:23                                                                                     ` Rik van Riel
1999-01-26 15:44                                                                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-27 14:52                                                                                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-28 19:12                                                                                     ` Dr. Werner Fink
1999-01-13 17:55                                                                   ` [PATCH] " Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-13 18:52                                                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-13 22:10                                                                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-13 22:30                                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-11 11:20                                                       ` Pavel Machek
1999-01-11 17:35                                                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-11 14:11                                                     ` Savochkin Andrey Vladimirovich
1999-01-11 17:55                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-11 18:37                                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-08  2:56                                         ` arca-vm-8 [Re: [patch] arca-vm-6, killed kswapd [Re: [patch] new-vm , improvement , [Re: 2.2.0 Bug summary]]] Eric W. Biederman
1999-01-09  0:50                                         ` David S. Miller
1999-01-09  2:13                                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-09  2:34                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-09  9:30                                             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-09 12:11                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-07 14:11                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-07 18:19                                       ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-07 20:35                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-07 23:51                                           ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-08  0:04                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-04 22:43                         ` [patch] arca-vm-6, killed kswapd [Re: [patch] new-vm improvement , [Re: 2.2.0 Bug summary]] Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-04 22:29                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-05 13:33                   ` [patch] new-vm improvement [Re: 2.2.0 Bug summary] Ben McCann
1999-01-02 20:04             ` Steve Bergman
1999-01-02  3:03         ` Andrea Arcangeli

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