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From: "Dr. Werner Fink" <werner@suse.de>
To: sct@dcs.ed.ac.uk
Cc: torvalds@transmeta.com, blah@kvack.org, H.H.vanRiel@fys.ruu.nl,
	nahshon@actcom.co.il, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, paubert@iram.es,
	linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, mingo@chiara.csoma.elte.hu,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Fairness in love and swapping
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 22:39:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <199802252139.WAA27196@boole.fs100.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <199802252032.UAA01920@dax.dcs.ed.ac.uk> (sct@dcs.ed.ac.uk)

>
> I noticed something rather unfortunate when starting up two of these
> tests simultaneously, each test using a bit less than total physical
> memory.  The first test gobbled up the whole of ram as expected, but the
> second test did not.  What happened was that the contention for memory
> was keeping swap active all the time, but the processes which were
> already all in memory just kept running at full speed and so their pages
> all remained fresh in the page age table.  The newcomer processes were
> never able to keep a page in memory long enough for their age to compete
> with the old process' pages, and so I had a number of identical
> processes, half of which were fully swapped in and half of which were
> swapping madly.

Maybe my changes done for 2.0.3x in ipc/shm.c: shm_swap_in()

                shm_rss++;

                /* Give the physical reallocated page a bigger start */
                if (shm_rss < (MAP_NR(high_memory) >> 3))
                        mem_map[MAP_NR(page)].age = (PAGE_INITIAL_AGE + PAGE_ADVANCE);

and mm/page_alloc.c: swap_in()

                
        vma->vm_mm->rss++;
        tsk->maj_flt++;

        /* Give the physical reallocated page a bigger start */
        if (vma->vm_mm->rss < (MAP_NR(high_memory) >> 2))
                mem_map[MAP_NR(page)].age = (PAGE_INITIAL_AGE + PAGE_ADVANCE);


would help a bit.  With this few lines a recently swapin page gets a bigger
start by increasing the page age ... but only if the corresponding process to
not overtake the physical memory.  This change is not very smart (e.g. its not
a real comparsion by process swap count or priority) ... nevertheless it works
for 2.0.33.

> 
> Needless to say, this is highly unfair, but I'm not sure whether there
> is any easy way round it --- any clock algorithm will have the same
> problem, unless we start implementing dynamic resident set size limits.
> 


               Werner

  parent reply	other threads:[~1998-02-25 21:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-02-25 20:32 Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-02-25 21:02 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-02-25 21:44   ` Rik van Riel
1998-02-25 21:39 ` Dr. Werner Fink [this message]
1998-02-25 22:27   ` Rik van Riel
1998-02-26 11:03     ` Dr. Werner Fink
1998-02-26 11:34       ` Rik van Riel
1998-02-26 18:57         ` Dr. Werner Fink
1998-02-26 19:32           ` Rik van Riel
1998-02-26 22:44         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-02-26 23:34           ` Rik van Riel
1998-02-27 19:41             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-03-02 16:19               ` Rik van Riel
1998-03-02 22:35                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-03-02 23:14                   ` Rik van Riel
1998-03-03 22:59                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-02-26  8:05 ` Rogier Wolff
1998-02-26 13:00   ` Dr. Werner Fink
1998-02-26 22:36     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-02-26 23:20       ` Dr. Werner Fink
1998-02-26 14:30   ` Rik van Riel
1998-02-26 22:41     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-02-26 23:21       ` Rik van Riel
1998-02-26 22:33   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-02-26 22:49     ` Rik van Riel
1998-02-27  2:56     ` Michael O'Reilly
     [not found] <199802270729.IAA00680@cave.BitWizard.nl>
1998-02-27 11:26 ` Rik van Riel

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