From: Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: shmem: convert to use folio_zero_range()
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:33:44 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <198b9258-8d5d-4b13-9bc5-21f170b43940@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4zgXf3GFMHBZuydATcEOFq54P8iMmzi7NL4ESE9i2L4cQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 2024/10/21 17:17, Barry Song wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 9:14 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2024/10/21 15:55, Barry Song wrote:
>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 8:47 PM Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 7:09 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2024/10/21 13:38, Barry Song wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 6:16 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2024/10/21 12:15, Barry Song wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 8:48 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2024/10/18 15:32, Kefeng Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024/10/18 13:23, Barry Song wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 6:20 PM Kefeng Wang
>>>>>>>>>>> <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024/10/17 23:09, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:25:04PM +0800, Kefeng Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Directly use folio_zero_range() to cleanup code.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you sure there's no performance regression introduced by this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage() is often optimised in ways that we can't optimise for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a plain memset(). On the other hand, if the folio is large, maybe a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> modern CPU will be able to do better than clear-one-page-at-a-time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, I missing this, clear_page might be better than memset, I change
>>>>>>>>>>>> this one when look at the shmem_writepage(), which already convert to
>>>>>>>>>>>> use folio_zero_range() from clear_highpage(), also I grep
>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_range(), there are some other to use folio_zero_range().
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c: folio_zero_range(f,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 0, folio_size(f));
>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c: folio_zero_range(f,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 0, folio_size(f));
>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/libfs.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/ntfs3/frecord.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>>> mm/page_io.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>>> mm/shmem.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOW, what performance testing have you done with this patch?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No performance test before, but I write a testcase,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) allocate N large folios (folio_alloc(PMD_ORDER))
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) then calculate the diff(us) when clear all N folios
>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage/folio_zero_range/folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) release N folios
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the result(run 5 times) shown below on my machine,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> N=1,
>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage folio_zero_range folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 69 74 177
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 57 62 168
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 54 58 234
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 54 58 157
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 56 62 148
>>>>>>>>>>>> avg 58 62.8 176.8
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> N=100
>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage folio_zero_range folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 11015 11309 32833
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 10385 11110 49751
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 10369 11056 33095
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 10332 11017 33106
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 10483 11000 49032
>>>>>>>>>>>> avg 10516.8 11098.4 39563.4
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> N=512
>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage folio_zero_range folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 55560 60055 156876
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 55485 60024 157132
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 55474 60129 156658
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 55555 59867 157259
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 55528 59932 157108
>>>>>>>>>>>> avg 55520.4 60001.4 157006.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_user with many cond_resched(), so time fluctuates a lot,
>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage is better folio_zero_range as you said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe add a new helper to convert all folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio))
>>>>>>>>>>>> to use clear_highpage + flush_dcache_folio?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If this also improves performance for other existing callers of
>>>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_range(), then that's a positive outcome.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hi Kefeng,
>>>>>>>> what's your point? providing a helper like clear_highfolio() or similar?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, from above test, using clear_highpage/flush_dcache_folio is better
>>>>>>> than using folio_zero_range() for folio zero(especially for large
>>>>>>> folio), so I'd like to add a new helper, maybe name it folio_zero()
>>>>>>> since it zero the whole folio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we already have a helper like folio_zero_user()?
>>>>>> it is not good enough?
>>>>>
>>>>> Since it is with many cond_resched(), the performance is worst...
>>>>
>>>> Not exactly? It should have zero cost for a preemptible kernel.
>>>> For a non-preemptible kernel, it helps avoid clearing the folio
>>>> from occupying the CPU and starving other processes, right?
>>>
>>> --- a/mm/shmem.c
>>> +++ b/mm/shmem.c
>>>
>>> @@ -2393,10 +2393,7 @@ static int shmem_get_folio_gfp(struct inode
>>> *inode, pgoff_t index,
>>> * it now, lest undo on failure cancel our earlier guarantee.
>>> */
>>>
>>> if (sgp != SGP_WRITE && !folio_test_uptodate(folio)) {
>>> - long i, n = folio_nr_pages(folio);
>>> -
>>> - for (i = 0; i < n; i++)
>>> - clear_highpage(folio_page(folio, i));
>>> + folio_zero_user(folio, vmf->address);
>>> flush_dcache_folio(folio);
>>> folio_mark_uptodate(folio);
>>> }
>>>
>>> Do we perform better or worse with the following?
>>
>> Here is for SGP_FALLOC, vmf = NULL, we could use folio_zero_user(folio,
>> 0), I think the performance is worse, will retest once I can access
>> hardware.
>
> Perhaps, since the current code uses clear_hugepage(). Does using
> index << PAGE_SHIFT as the addr_hint offer any benefit?
>
when use folio_zero_user(), the performance is vary bad with above
fallocate test(mount huge=always),
folio_zero_range clear_highpage folio_zero_user
real 0m1.214s 0m1.111s 0m3.159s
user 0m0.000s 0m0.000s 0m0.000s
sys 0m1.210s 0m1.109s 0m3.152s
I tried with addr_hint = 0/index << PAGE_SHIFT, no obvious different.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-21 15:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-17 14:25 [PATCH] mm: shmem: avoid repeated flush dcache in shmem_writepage() Kefeng Wang
2024-10-17 14:25 ` [PATCH] mm: shmem: convert to use folio_zero_range() Kefeng Wang
2024-10-17 15:09 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-18 5:20 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-18 5:23 ` Barry Song
2024-10-18 7:32 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-18 7:47 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 4:15 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 5:16 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 5:38 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 6:09 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 7:47 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 7:55 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 8:14 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 9:17 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 15:33 ` Kefeng Wang [this message]
2024-10-21 20:32 ` Barry Song
2024-10-22 15:10 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-22 22:56 ` Barry Song
2024-10-24 10:10 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25 2:59 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 7:42 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25 7:47 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 10:21 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25 12:21 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 13:35 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-28 2:39 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-28 6:37 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-28 11:41 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-30 1:26 ` Huang, Ying
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