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From: Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: shmem: convert to use folio_zero_range()
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:33:44 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <198b9258-8d5d-4b13-9bc5-21f170b43940@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4zgXf3GFMHBZuydATcEOFq54P8iMmzi7NL4ESE9i2L4cQ@mail.gmail.com>



On 2024/10/21 17:17, Barry Song wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 9:14 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2024/10/21 15:55, Barry Song wrote:
>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 8:47 PM Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 7:09 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2024/10/21 13:38, Barry Song wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 6:16 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2024/10/21 12:15, Barry Song wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 8:48 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2024/10/18 15:32, Kefeng Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024/10/18 13:23, Barry Song wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 6:20 PM Kefeng Wang
>>>>>>>>>>> <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024/10/17 23:09, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:25:04PM +0800, Kefeng Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Directly use folio_zero_range() to cleanup code.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you sure there's no performance regression introduced by this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage() is often optimised in ways that we can't optimise for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a plain memset().  On the other hand, if the folio is large, maybe a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> modern CPU will be able to do better than clear-one-page-at-a-time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, I missing this, clear_page might be better than memset, I change
>>>>>>>>>>>> this one when look at the shmem_writepage(), which already convert to
>>>>>>>>>>>> use folio_zero_range() from clear_highpage(), also I grep
>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_range(), there are some other to use folio_zero_range().
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c:           folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c:                   folio_zero_range(f,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 0, folio_size(f));
>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c:                   folio_zero_range(f,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 0, folio_size(f));
>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/libfs.c:     folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/ntfs3/frecord.c:             folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>>> mm/page_io.c:   folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>>> mm/shmem.c:             folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOW, what performance testing have you done with this patch?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No performance test before, but I write a testcase,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) allocate N large folios (folio_alloc(PMD_ORDER))
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) then calculate the diff(us) when clear all N folios
>>>>>>>>>>>>          clear_highpage/folio_zero_range/folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) release N folios
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the result(run 5 times) shown below on my machine,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> N=1,
>>>>>>>>>>>>              clear_highpage  folio_zero_range    folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>>>>         1      69                   74                 177
>>>>>>>>>>>>         2      57                   62                 168
>>>>>>>>>>>>         3      54                   58                 234
>>>>>>>>>>>>         4      54                   58                 157
>>>>>>>>>>>>         5      56                   62                 148
>>>>>>>>>>>> avg       58                   62.8               176.8
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> N=100
>>>>>>>>>>>>              clear_highpage  folio_zero_range    folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>>>>         1    11015                 11309               32833
>>>>>>>>>>>>         2    10385                 11110               49751
>>>>>>>>>>>>         3    10369                 11056               33095
>>>>>>>>>>>>         4    10332                 11017               33106
>>>>>>>>>>>>         5    10483                 11000               49032
>>>>>>>>>>>> avg     10516.8               11098.4             39563.4
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> N=512
>>>>>>>>>>>>              clear_highpage  folio_zero_range   folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>>>>         1    55560                 60055              156876
>>>>>>>>>>>>         2    55485                 60024              157132
>>>>>>>>>>>>         3    55474                 60129              156658
>>>>>>>>>>>>         4    55555                 59867              157259
>>>>>>>>>>>>         5    55528                 59932              157108
>>>>>>>>>>>> avg     55520.4               60001.4            157006.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_user with many cond_resched(), so time fluctuates a lot,
>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage is better folio_zero_range as you said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe add a new helper to convert all folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio))
>>>>>>>>>>>> to use clear_highpage + flush_dcache_folio?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If this also improves performance for other existing callers of
>>>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_range(), then that's a positive outcome.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hi Kefeng,
>>>>>>>> what's your point? providing a helper like clear_highfolio() or similar?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, from above test, using clear_highpage/flush_dcache_folio is better
>>>>>>> than using folio_zero_range() for folio zero(especially for large
>>>>>>> folio), so I'd like to add a new helper, maybe name it folio_zero()
>>>>>>> since it zero the whole folio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we already have a helper like folio_zero_user()?
>>>>>> it is not good enough?
>>>>>
>>>>> Since it is with many cond_resched(), the performance is worst...
>>>>
>>>> Not exactly? It should have zero cost for a preemptible kernel.
>>>> For a non-preemptible kernel, it helps avoid clearing the folio
>>>> from occupying the CPU and starving other processes, right?
>>>
>>> --- a/mm/shmem.c
>>> +++ b/mm/shmem.c
>>>
>>> @@ -2393,10 +2393,7 @@ static int shmem_get_folio_gfp(struct inode
>>> *inode, pgoff_t index,
>>>            * it now, lest undo on failure cancel our earlier guarantee.
>>>            */
>>>
>>>           if (sgp != SGP_WRITE && !folio_test_uptodate(folio)) {
>>> -               long i, n = folio_nr_pages(folio);
>>> -
>>> -               for (i = 0; i < n; i++)
>>> -                       clear_highpage(folio_page(folio, i));
>>> +               folio_zero_user(folio, vmf->address);
>>>                   flush_dcache_folio(folio);
>>>                   folio_mark_uptodate(folio);
>>>           }
>>>
>>> Do we perform better or worse with the following?
>>
>> Here is for SGP_FALLOC, vmf = NULL, we could use folio_zero_user(folio,
>> 0), I think the performance is worse, will retest once I can access
>> hardware.
> 
> Perhaps, since the current code uses clear_hugepage(). Does using
> index << PAGE_SHIFT as the addr_hint offer any benefit?
> 

when use folio_zero_user(), the performance is vary bad with above
fallocate test(mount huge=always),

       folio_zero_range   clear_highpage         folio_zero_user
real    0m1.214s             0m1.111s              0m3.159s
user    0m0.000s             0m0.000s              0m0.000s
sys     0m1.210s             0m1.109s              0m3.152s

I tried with addr_hint = 0/index << PAGE_SHIFT, no obvious different.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-21 15:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-17 14:25 [PATCH] mm: shmem: avoid repeated flush dcache in shmem_writepage() Kefeng Wang
2024-10-17 14:25 ` [PATCH] mm: shmem: convert to use folio_zero_range() Kefeng Wang
2024-10-17 15:09   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-18  5:20     ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-18  5:23       ` Barry Song
2024-10-18  7:32         ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-18  7:47           ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21  4:15             ` Barry Song
2024-10-21  5:16               ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21  5:38                 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21  6:09                   ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21  7:47                     ` Barry Song
2024-10-21  7:55                       ` Barry Song
2024-10-21  8:14                         ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21  9:17                           ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 15:33                             ` Kefeng Wang [this message]
2024-10-21 20:32                               ` Barry Song
2024-10-22 15:10                                 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-22 22:56                                   ` Barry Song
2024-10-24 10:10                                     ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25  2:59                                       ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25  7:42                                         ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25  7:47                                           ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 10:21                                             ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25 12:21                                               ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 13:35                                                 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-28  2:39                                                   ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-28  6:37                                                     ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-28 11:41                                                       ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-30  1:26                                                         ` Huang, Ying

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