From: Robert Beckett <bob.beckett@collabora.com>
To: "Keith Busch" <kbusch@kernel.org>
Cc: "linux-nvme" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
"Jens Axboe" <axboe@fb.com>, "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
"Sagi Grimberg" <sagi@grimberg.me>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-mm" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: possible regression fs corruption on 64GB nvme
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:56:37 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <191e203fd17.118394e2d1606957.7379866259983341167@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZuCHk6hDxF65v8T2@kbusch-mbp>
---- On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 18:53:23 +0100 Keith Busch wrote ---
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Robert Beckett wrote:
> > nvme.io_queue_depth=2 appears to fix it. Could you explain the implications of this?
> > I assume it is limiting to 2 outstanding requests concurrently.
>
> You'd think so, but not quite. NVMe queues need to leave one entry
> empty, so a submission queue with depth "2" means you can have at most 1
> command outstanding.
>
> > Does it suggest an issue with the specific device's FW?
>
> I think that sounds probable. Especially considering the dmapool code
> has had considerable run time in real life, and no other such issue has
> been reported.
>
> > I assume this would suggest that it is not actually anything wrong with the dmapool, it was just exposing the issue of the device/fw?
>
> That's what I'm thinking, though, if you have a single queue with depth
> 2, we're not stressing the dmapool implementation either. It's always
> going to return the same dma block for each command.
>
> > Any advice for handling this and/or investigating further?
>
> If you have the resources for it, get protocol analyzer trace and show
> it to your nvme vendor.
Unfortunately this is infeasible for us.
>
> > My initial speculation was that maybe the disk fw is signalling completion of an access before it has actually finished making it's way to ram. I checked the code and saw that the dmapool appears to be used for storing the buffer page addresses, so I imagine that is not updated by the disk at all, which would rule out my assumption.
>
> Right, it's used to make the prp/sgl list. Once we get a completion,
> that dma block becomes immediately available for the very next command.
> If you have a higher queue depth, it's possible that dma block is reused
> immediately while the driver is still notifying the block layer of the
> completion.
>
> If we're thinking that the device is completing the command before it's
> really done with the list (which could explain your observation), that
> would be a problem. Going to single queue-depth might introduce a delay
> or work around some firmware issue when dealing with concurrent
> commands.
>
> Prior to the "new" dmapool allocation, it was much less likely (though I
> think still possible) for your next command to reuse the same dma block
> of the command currently being completed.
>
given this ~9 year old temporary fix is still in the kernel for the Apple device, could we just add another device specific override? I could maybe convert it to a quirk that is set for them both (and any future devices)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-11 16:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-09 18:34 Robert Beckett
2024-09-09 19:29 ` Keith Busch
2024-09-09 20:29 ` Keith Busch
2024-09-09 20:31 ` Keith Busch
2024-09-10 9:30 ` Robert Beckett
2024-09-10 17:27 ` Robert Beckett
2024-09-10 17:53 ` Keith Busch
2024-09-11 16:56 ` Robert Beckett [this message]
2024-09-11 16:57 ` Robert Beckett
2024-09-11 17:08 ` Keith Busch
2024-09-11 17:17 ` Robert Beckett
2024-09-10 4:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-10 9:37 ` Robert Beckett
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