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From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
Cc: Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: 2.5.74-mm1 fails to boot due to APIC trouble, 2.5.73mm3 works.
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 13:37:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19140000.1057351073@[10.10.2.4]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030704200746.GB1715@holomorphy.com>

>> Maybe not, but it looks like one. Maybe if you actually explain
>> what you're trying to fix, and why?
>> I think this kind of change deserves a better explanation that 
>> "I'm right" ... that's my main objection.
> 
> I'll try to be more verbose, then.

Thanks ... will help a lot ;-)

> On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 12:38:19PM -0700, Martin J. Bligh wrote:
>> Explain. Not obvious to the casual observer.
> 
> The function assigns physical APIC ID's to IO-APIC's. The loop is
> intended to iterate over the physical APIC ID space. 0xf is an
> inaccurate description of the upper bound on the physical APIC ID space.
> APIC_BROADCAST_ID is a more accurate upper bound.

OK, you're right. Is just confusing because it works as it is right 
now ... even on a 32x system - however, that's only because Summit
doesn't actually run that region of code, and NUMA-Q ignores it.

> On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 02:35:31AM -0700, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
>>> APIC_BROADCAST_ID is an upper bound on valid physical APIC ID's as it
>>> is used in the code. That actually was commented in the patch.
> 
> On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 12:38:19PM -0700, Martin J. Bligh wrote:
>> I find it odd that this worked before then. Also seems to be a separate
>> issue from the rest of the patch. Is quite probably correct, is just
>> non-obvious in the context of the rest of the patch.
> 
> I audited not only for usage of limited-width bitmaps for APIC ID
> spaces, but also improper bounds on iterations over APIC ID spaces.
> Things ran out of APIC ID's when phys_cpu_present_map was NR_CPUS
> wide. This patch makes the limits accurate to the hardware with
> the brute-force application of bitmaps. The semantic impact of
> dropping in a bitmap is very low. The issue that arose was that it
> wasn't wide enough, which was obvious enough to spot as a thinko
> without even testing.
>
>> Why is Summit 0xF, and bigsmp 0xFF then?
> 
> Summit (and all other xAPIC-based subarches) should be 0xFF; I missed
> it in the sweep.

OK. Makes more sense now if both are that way.

> On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 02:35:31AM -0700, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
>>> Look at where it's used.
> 
> On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 12:38:19PM -0700, Martin J. Bligh wrote:
>> I did. Still unclear why you think this is correct, or what physical
>> apicids have to do with a function that maps from apicids to  the
>> phys_cpu_present_map, which is a compact mapping of logical apicids
>> for NUMA-Q.
>> Sorry, but this needs more explanation.
> 
> The bitmap width is sufficient. NUMA-Q abuses what everything else
> uses for physical APIC ID's (partly because of the BIOS). It so happens
> that the array is MAX_APICS wide, which suffices for NUMA-Q (and
> anything else that cares to use it).
> 
> No. This was not written for or around NUMA-Q; it's meant for the
> io_apic.c loops and sparse physid wakeup on non-NUMA-Q machines.

OK, maybe this is just an extension of my earlier abuse - in which 
case, let's just remove it. Was bad enough before, but now even I 
can't understand it, and I wrote the damned thing.

So yes, it looks correct. I'll see if I can see a neat way to bury this
under the existing abstractions like Summit does ... I'm not sure it's
a good idea to have two different methods for this; that whole area of
code is getting horribly complicated ...

Thanks very much for the explanations,

M.

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-04 20:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-03  9:37 2.5.74-mm1 Andrew Morton
2003-07-03 10:45 ` 2.5.74-mm1 (p4-clockmod does not compile) Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2003-07-03 11:07   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 11:17     ` Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2003-07-03 11:20       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 11:32         ` 2.5.74-mm1 (p4-clockmod does not compile) PATCH Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2003-07-07  5:24         ` 2.5.74-mm1 (p4-clockmod does not compile) Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-07-07  5:47           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 13:15 ` o1-interactivity.patch (was Re: 2.5.74-mm1) Sean Neakums
2003-07-03 13:30   ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-03 16:02 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-07-03 18:11 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Pasi Savolainen
2003-07-03 20:25 ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 20:48   ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04  8:55 ` 2.5.74-mm1 fails to boot due to APIC trouble, 2.5.73mm3 works Helge Hafting
2003-07-04  8:53   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04  9:35   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04  9:50     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 10:02       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 10:07         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 11:12           ` Helge Hafting
2003-07-04 11:10             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 15:41       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-04 15:47         ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-07-04 16:18           ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-04 16:16             ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-07-04 18:31             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 19:20               ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-04 19:31                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 19:53                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-04 20:17                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 18:32             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 18:36             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 18:29           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 18:26         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 19:38           ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-04 20:07             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 20:37               ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2003-07-04 21:07 ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-05  1:15   ` 2.5.74-mm1 Andrew Morton
2003-07-05  5:21     ` 2.5.74-mm1 Anton Blanchard
2003-07-05 11:18       ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-05 11:46         ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-05 10:44     ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-05 18:43       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Andrew Morton
2003-07-05 21:17         ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-05 21:27           ` 2.5.74-mm1 Andrew Morton
2003-07-05 22:03             ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-05  0:16 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-05 15:28   ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-05 16:01     ` 2.5.74-mm1 Con Kolivas
2003-07-05 17:47       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-06  3:41         ` 2.5.74-mm1 Con Kolivas
2003-07-06 18:50           ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-05 19:14     ` 2.5.74-mm1 Andrew Morton
2003-07-05 21:09       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-05 21:44         ` 2.5.74-mm1 Jamie Lokier
2003-07-05 22:10           ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-06  1:28             ` 2.5.74-mm1 Jamie Lokier
2003-07-06  2:14               ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-06  2:21                 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-06 13:54                   ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-07 10:00                 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Mel Gorman
2003-07-07 12:24                   ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-07 13:16                     ` 2.5.74-mm1 Mel Gorman
2003-07-07 14:47                       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-07 15:23                         ` 2.5.74-mm1 Jamie Lokier
2003-07-07 17:25                           ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-07 17:55                             ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-07 18:36                               ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-07 19:07                                 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-07 19:39                                 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Jamie Lokier
2003-07-07 19:36                             ` 2.5.74-mm1 Jamie Lokier
2003-07-09 22:17                               ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-09 22:24                                 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Jamie Lokier
2003-07-09 22:29                                   ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-09 23:15                                     ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-09 23:19                                       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Jamie Lokier
2003-07-09 22:59                                   ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-10  2:01                                     ` 2.5.74-mm1 Peter Chubb
2003-07-11  1:04                                       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-11  1:08                                         ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-11  5:44                                         ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-11  8:07                                           ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-07 15:28                         ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-07 17:58                           ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
     [not found]                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.55.0307070745250.4428@bigblue.dev.mcafeelabs.co m>
2003-07-07 17:15                       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Mike Galbraith
2003-07-06  0:10       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-06  0:10         ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-07 13:38 ` OOPS: 2.5.74-mm2 Maciej Soltysiak

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