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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Mike Marshall <hubcap@omnibond.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@netapp.com>,
	Steve French <sfrench@samba.org>,
	Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-cachefs@redhat.com,
	linux-afs@lists.infradead.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	v9fs-developer@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>,
	David Wysochanski <dwysocha@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/33] mm: Implement readahead_control pageset expansion
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 22:34:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1901187.1613601279@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210217161358.GM2858050@casper.infradead.org>

Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:

> We're defeating the ondemand_readahead() algorithm here.  Let's suppose
> userspace is doing 64kB reads, the filesystem is OrangeFS which only
> wants to do 4MB reads, the page cache is initially empty and there's
> only one thread doing a sequential read.  ondemand_readahead() calls
> get_init_ra_size() which tells it to allocate 128kB and set the async
> marker at 64kB.  Then orangefs calls readahead_expand() to allocate the
> remainder of the 4MB.  After the app has read the first 64kB, it comes
> back to read the next 64kB, sees the readahead marker and tries to trigger
> the next batch of readahead, but it's already present, so it does nothing
> (see page_cache_ra_unbounded() for what happens with pages present).

It sounds like Christoph is right on the right track and the vm needs to ask
the filesystem (and by extension, the cache) before doing the allocation and
before setting the trigger flag.  Then we don't need to call back into the vm
to expand the readahead.

Also, there's Steve's request to try and keep at least two requests in flight
for CIFS/SMB at the same time to consider.

David



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-02-17 22:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-15 15:44 [PATCH 00/33] Network fs helper library & fscache kiocb API [ver #3] David Howells
2021-02-15 15:44 ` [PATCH 01/33] iov_iter: Add ITER_XARRAY David Howells
2021-02-15 15:44 ` [PATCH 02/33] mm: Add an unlock function for PG_private_2/PG_fscache David Howells
2021-02-16 10:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-15 15:44 ` [PATCH 03/33] mm: Implement readahead_control pageset expansion David Howells
2021-02-16 10:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-16 13:22     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-17 14:36       ` Mike Marshall
2021-02-17 15:42       ` David Howells
2021-02-17 16:59         ` Mike Marshall
2021-02-17 22:20         ` David Howells
2021-02-16 11:48   ` David Howells
2021-02-17 16:13   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-17 22:34   ` David Howells [this message]
2021-02-17 22:49     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-18 17:47   ` David Howells
2021-02-15 15:45 ` [PATCH 04/33] vfs: Export rw_verify_area() for use by cachefiles David Howells
2021-02-16 10:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-16 11:55   ` David Howells
2021-02-15 15:45 ` [PATCH 05/33] netfs: Make a netfs helper module David Howells
2021-02-15 15:45 ` [PATCH 06/33] netfs, mm: Move PG_fscache helper funcs to linux/netfs.h David Howells
2021-02-15 15:45 ` [PATCH 07/33] netfs, mm: Add unlock_page_fscache() and wait_on_page_fscache() David Howells
2021-02-15 15:45 ` [PATCH 08/33] netfs: Provide readahead and readpage netfs helpers David Howells
2021-02-15 15:45 ` [PATCH 09/33] netfs: Add tracepoints David Howells
2021-02-15 15:46 ` [PATCH 10/33] netfs: Gather stats David Howells
2021-02-15 15:46 ` [PATCH 11/33] netfs: Add write_begin helper David Howells
2021-02-15 15:46 ` [PATCH 12/33] netfs: Define an interface to talk to a cache David Howells
2021-02-15 15:46 ` [PATCH 13/33] netfs: Hold a ref on a page when PG_private_2 is set David Howells
2021-02-15 18:05 ` [PATCH 00/33] Network fs helper library & fscache kiocb API [ver #3] Jeff Layton
2021-02-16  0:40   ` Steve French
2021-02-16  2:10     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-16  5:18       ` Steve French
2021-02-16  5:22       ` Steve French
2021-02-23 20:27         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-24  4:57           ` Steve French
2021-02-24 13:32       ` David Howells
2021-02-24 15:51         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-16 11:01     ` Jeff Layton
2021-02-15 22:46 ` [PATCH 34/33] netfs: Use in_interrupt() not in_softirq() David Howells
2021-02-16  8:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-16  9:06     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2021-02-16  9:29   ` David Howells
2021-02-16  9:30     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-18 14:02     ` [PATCH 34/33] netfs: Pass flag rather than use in_softirq() David Howells
2021-02-18 15:06       ` Marc Dionne
2021-02-18 15:16       ` Marc Dionne
2021-02-19  9:01       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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