From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
Cc: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 18/18] mm, netmem: remove the page pool members in struct page
Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 08:21:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <187e12ce-7e25-4fe0-871d-170f22125f8e@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHS8izNYmWTgb+QDA72RYAQaFC15Tfc59tK3Q2d670gHyyKJNQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 5/27/25 18:38, Mina Almasry wrote:
...>>>> struct netmem_desc *page_to_netmem_desc(struct page *page)
>>>> {
>>>> return &page->netmem_desc;
>>>
>>> page will not have any netmem things in it after this, that matters.
>>
>> Ok, the question is where are you going to stash the fields?
>> We still need space to store them. Are you going to do the
>> indirection mm folks want?
>>
>
> I think I see some confusion here. I'm not sure indirection is what mm
> folks want. The memdesc effort has already been implemented for zpdesc
To the best of my knowledge, it is. What you're looking at should be
a temporary state before all other users are converted, after which
mm will shrink the page in a single patch / small series.
> and ptdesc[1], and the approach they did is very different from this
> series. zpdesc and ptdesc have created a struct that mirrors the
> entirety of struct page, not a subfield of struct page with
> indirection:
>
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.14.3/source/mm/zpdesc.h#L29
>
> I'm now a bit confused, because the code changes in this series do not
> match the general approach that zpdesc and ptdesc have done.
In my estimation, the only bits that mm needs for a clean final
patch is a new struct with use case specific fields (i.e. netmem_desc),
a helper converting a page to it, and that everyone uses the helper
to access the fields. I'd argue a temporary placeholder in struct
page is an easier approach than separate overlays, but either is
fine to me.
> Byungchul, is the deviation in approach from zpdesc and ptdecs
> intentional? And if so why? Should we follow the zpdesc and ptdesc
> lead and implement a new struct that mirrors the entirety of struct
> page?
>
> [1] https://kernelnewbies.org/MatthewWilcox/Memdescs/Path
--
Pavel Begunkov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-28 7:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-23 3:25 [PATCH 00/18] Split netmem from " Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:25 ` [PATCH 01/18] netmem: introduce struct netmem_desc struct_group_tagged()'ed on struct net_iov Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 9:01 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-05-26 0:56 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 17:00 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-26 1:15 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-27 2:50 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-27 20:03 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-28 1:21 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 3:47 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-28 5:03 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 7:43 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-28 8:17 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 7:38 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-23 3:25 ` [PATCH 02/18] netmem: introduce netmem alloc APIs to wrap page alloc APIs Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:25 ` [PATCH 03/18] page_pool: use netmem alloc/put APIs in __page_pool_alloc_page_order() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:25 ` [PATCH 04/18] page_pool: rename __page_pool_alloc_page_order() to __page_pool_alloc_large_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:25 ` [PATCH 05/18] page_pool: use netmem alloc/put APIs in __page_pool_alloc_pages_slow() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:25 ` [PATCH 06/18] page_pool: rename page_pool_return_page() to page_pool_return_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 3:18 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-23 3:25 ` [PATCH 07/18] page_pool: use netmem put API in page_pool_return_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:25 ` [PATCH 08/18] page_pool: rename __page_pool_release_page_dma() to __page_pool_release_netmem_dma() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:26 ` [PATCH 09/18] page_pool: rename __page_pool_put_page() to __page_pool_put_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:26 ` [PATCH 10/18] page_pool: rename __page_pool_alloc_pages_slow() to __page_pool_alloc_netmems_slow() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:26 ` [PATCH 11/18] mlx4: use netmem descriptor and APIs for page pool Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:26 ` [PATCH 12/18] page_pool: use netmem APIs to access page->pp_magic in page_pool_page_is_pp() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 8:58 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-05-23 17:21 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-26 2:23 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-26 2:36 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-26 8:40 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-05-26 9:43 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-26 9:54 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-05-26 10:01 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 5:14 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 7:35 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-05-28 8:15 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 7:51 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-28 8:14 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 9:07 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-28 9:14 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 9:20 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-28 9:33 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 9:51 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-28 10:44 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 10:54 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-23 3:26 ` [PATCH 13/18] mlx5: use netmem descriptor and APIs for page pool Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 17:13 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-26 3:08 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-26 8:12 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-26 18:00 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-23 3:26 ` [PATCH 14/18] netmem: use _Generic to cover const casting for page_to_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 17:14 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-23 3:26 ` [PATCH 15/18] netmem: remove __netmem_get_pp() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:26 ` [PATCH 16/18] page_pool: make page_pool_get_dma_addr() just wrap page_pool_get_dma_addr_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:26 ` [PATCH 17/18] netdevsim: use netmem descriptor and APIs for page pool Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:26 ` [PATCH 18/18] mm, netmem: remove the page pool members in struct page Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 17:16 ` kernel test robot
2025-05-23 17:55 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-26 1:37 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-26 16:58 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-26 17:33 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-27 1:02 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-27 1:31 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-27 5:30 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-27 17:38 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-28 1:31 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 7:21 ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2025-05-23 6:20 ` [PATCH 00/18] Split netmem from " Taehee Yoo
2025-05-23 7:47 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 17:47 ` SeongJae Park
2025-05-26 1:16 ` Byungchul Park
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