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From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Nils Holland <nholland@tisys.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm, oom: do not enfore OOM killer for __GFP_NOFAIL automatically
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 20:17:07 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18652e94-8f5c-dcf1-16e6-0deab6c642ec@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161216221202.GE7645@dhcp22.suse.cz>

Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 16-12-16 12:31:51, Johannes Weiner wrote:
>>> @@ -3737,6 +3752,16 @@ __alloc_pages_slowpath(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
>>>  		 */
>>>  		WARN_ON_ONCE(order > PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER);
>>>  
>>> +		/*
>>> +		 * Help non-failing allocations by giving them access to memory
>>> +		 * reserves but do not use ALLOC_NO_WATERMARKS because this
>>> +		 * could deplete whole memory reserves which would just make
>>> +		 * the situation worse
>>> +		 */
>>> +		page = __alloc_pages_cpuset_fallback(gfp_mask, order, ALLOC_HARDER, ac);
>>> +		if (page)
>>> +			goto got_pg;
>>> +
>>
>> But this should be a separate patch, IMO.
>>
>> Do we observe GFP_NOFS lockups when we don't do this? 
> 
> this is hard to tell but considering users like grow_dev_page we can get
> stuck with a very slow progress I believe. Those allocations could see
> some help.
> 
>> Don't we risk
>> premature exhaustion of the memory reserves, and it's better to wait
>> for other reclaimers to make some progress instead?
> 
> waiting for other reclaimers would be preferable but we should at least
> give these some priority, which is what ALLOC_HARDER should help with.
> 
>> Should we give
>> reserve access to all GFP_NOFS allocations, or just the ones from a
>> reclaim/cleaning context?
> 
> I would focus only for those which are important enough. Which are those
> is a harder question. But certainly those with GFP_NOFAIL are important
> enough.
> 
>> All that should go into the changelog of a separate allocation booster
>> patch, I think.
> 
> The reason I did both in the same patch is to address the concern about
> potential lockups when NOFS|NOFAIL cannot make any progress. I've chosen
> ALLOC_HARDER to give the minimum portion of the reserves so that we do
> not risk other high priority users to be blocked out but still help a
> bit at least and prevent from starvation when other reclaimers are
> faster to consume the reclaimed memory.
> 
> I can extend the changelog of course but I believe that having both
> changes together makes some sense. NOFS|NOFAIL allocations are not all
> that rare and sometimes we really depend on them making a further
> progress.
> 

I feel that allowing access to memory reserves based on __GFP_NOFAIL might not
make sense. My understanding is that actual I/O operation triggered by I/O
requests by filesystem code are processed by other threads. Even if we grant
access to memory reserves to GFP_NOFS | __GFP_NOFAIL allocations by fs code,
I think that it is possible that memory allocations by underlying bio code
fails to make a further progress unless memory reserves are granted as well.

Below is a typical trace which I observe under OOM lockuped situation (though
this trace is from an OOM stress test using XFS).

----------------------------------------
[ 1845.187246] MemAlloc: kworker/2:1(14498) flags=0x4208060 switches=323636 seq=48 gfp=0x2400000(GFP_NOIO) order=0 delay=430400 uninterruptible
[ 1845.187248] kworker/2:1     D12712 14498      2 0x00000080
[ 1845.187251] Workqueue: events_freezable_power_ disk_events_workfn
[ 1845.187252] Call Trace:
[ 1845.187253]  ? __schedule+0x23f/0xba0
[ 1845.187254]  schedule+0x38/0x90
[ 1845.187255]  schedule_timeout+0x205/0x4a0
[ 1845.187256]  ? del_timer_sync+0xd0/0xd0
[ 1845.187257]  schedule_timeout_uninterruptible+0x25/0x30
[ 1845.187258]  __alloc_pages_nodemask+0x1035/0x10e0
[ 1845.187259]  ? alloc_request_struct+0x14/0x20
[ 1845.187261]  alloc_pages_current+0x96/0x1b0
[ 1845.187262]  ? bio_alloc_bioset+0x20f/0x2e0
[ 1845.187264]  bio_copy_kern+0xc4/0x180
[ 1845.187265]  blk_rq_map_kern+0x6f/0x120
[ 1845.187268]  __scsi_execute.isra.23+0x12f/0x160
[ 1845.187270]  scsi_execute_req_flags+0x8f/0x100
[ 1845.187271]  sr_check_events+0xba/0x2b0 [sr_mod]
[ 1845.187274]  cdrom_check_events+0x13/0x30 [cdrom]
[ 1845.187275]  sr_block_check_events+0x25/0x30 [sr_mod]
[ 1845.187276]  disk_check_events+0x5b/0x150
[ 1845.187277]  disk_events_workfn+0x17/0x20
[ 1845.187278]  process_one_work+0x1fc/0x750
[ 1845.187279]  ? process_one_work+0x167/0x750
[ 1845.187279]  worker_thread+0x126/0x4a0
[ 1845.187280]  kthread+0x10a/0x140
[ 1845.187281]  ? process_one_work+0x750/0x750
[ 1845.187282]  ? kthread_create_on_node+0x60/0x60
[ 1845.187283]  ret_from_fork+0x2a/0x40
----------------------------------------

I think that this GFP_NOIO allocation request needs to consume more memory reserves
than GFP_NOFS allocation request to make progress. 
Do we want to add __GFP_NOFAIL to this GFP_NOIO allocation request in order to allow
access to memory reserves as well as GFP_NOFS | __GFP_NOFAIL allocation request?

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-17 11:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20161215225702.GA27944@boerne.fritz.box>
2016-12-16  7:39 ` OOM: Better, but still there on 4.9 Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 15:58   ` OOM: Better, but still there on Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 15:58     ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: consolidate GFP_NOFAIL checks in the allocator slowpath Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 15:58     ` [PATCH 2/2] mm, oom: do not enfore OOM killer for __GFP_NOFAIL automatically Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 17:31       ` Johannes Weiner
2016-12-16 22:12         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-17 11:17           ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
2016-12-18 16:37             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 18:47     ` OOM: Better, but still there on Nils Holland
2016-12-17  0:02       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-17 12:59         ` Nils Holland
2016-12-17 14:44           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-17 17:11             ` Nils Holland
2016-12-17 21:06             ` Nils Holland
2016-12-18  5:14               ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-19 13:45               ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-20  2:08                 ` Nils Holland
2016-12-21  7:36                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-21 11:00                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-21 11:16                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-21 14:04                         ` Chris Mason
2016-12-22 10:10                     ` Nils Holland
2016-12-22 10:27                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-22 10:35                         ` Nils Holland
2016-12-22 10:46                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-22 19:17                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-22 21:46                         ` Nils Holland
2016-12-23 10:51                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-23 12:18                             ` Nils Holland
2016-12-23 12:57                               ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-23 14:47                                 ` [RFC PATCH] mm, memcg: fix (Re: OOM: Better, but still there on) Michal Hocko
2016-12-23 22:26                                   ` Nils Holland
2016-12-26 12:48                                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-26 18:57                                       ` Nils Holland
2016-12-27  8:08                                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-27 11:23                                           ` Nils Holland
2016-12-27 11:27                                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-27 15:55                                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-27 16:28                                         ` [PATCH] mm, vmscan: consider eligible zones in get_scan_count kbuild test robot
2016-12-28  8:51                                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-27 19:33                                         ` [RFC PATCH] mm, memcg: fix (Re: OOM: Better, but still there on) Nils Holland
2016-12-28  8:57                                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-29  1:20                                         ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-29  9:04                                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-30  2:05                                             ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-30 10:40                                               ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-29  0:31                                       ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-29  0:48                                         ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-29  8:52                                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-30 10:19                                       ` Mel Gorman
2016-12-30 11:05                                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-30 12:43                                           ` Mel Gorman
2016-12-25 22:25                                   ` [lkp-developer] [mm, memcg] d18e2b2aca: WARNING:at_mm/memcontrol.c:#mem_cgroup_update_lru_size kernel test robot
2016-12-26 12:26                                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-26 12:50                                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 18:15   ` OOM: Better, but still there on 4.9 Chris Mason
2016-12-16 22:14     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 22:47       ` Chris Mason
2016-12-16 23:31         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 19:50   ` Chris Mason
2016-12-01 15:25 [PATCH 0/2] GFP_NOFAIL cleanups Michal Hocko
2016-12-01 15:25 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm, oom: do not enfore OOM killer for __GFP_NOFAIL automatically Michal Hocko
2016-12-02  7:23   ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-12-05 13:45   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-05 14:10     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-06  8:27       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-06 10:38       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-06 11:03         ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-12-06 19:25           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-06 19:22         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-08 12:53           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-08 13:47             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-11 11:23               ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-11 13:53                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-12  8:52                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-12  8:48                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-14 10:34                   ` Michal Hocko

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