From: "John Stoffel" <john@stoffel.org>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] remove throttle_vm_writeout()
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:43:00 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <18182.23428.284531.374140@stoffel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1IdkTY-0002tc-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
>> I think that's an improvement in all respects.
>>
>> However it still does not generally address the deadlock scenario: if
>> there's a small DMA zone, and fuse manages to put all of those pages
>> under writeout, then there's trouble.
Miklos> And the only way to solve that AFAICS, is to make sure fuse
Miklos> never uses more than e.g. 50% of _any_ zone for page cache.
Miklos> And that may need some tweaking in the allocator...
So what happens if I have three different FUSE mounts, all under heavy
write pressure? It's not a FUSE problem, it's a VM problem as far as
I can see. All I did was extrapolate from the 50% number (where did
that come from?) and triple it to go over 100%, since we obviously
shouldn't take 100% of any zone, right?
So the real cure is to have some way to rate limit Zone usage, making
it harder and harder to allocate in a zone as the zone gets more and
more full. But how do you do this in a non-deadlocky way?
Buy hey, I'm not that knowledgeable about the VM.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-05 15:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-04 12:25 Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 12:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04 13:00 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 13:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04 13:49 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 16:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04 17:46 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-04 18:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04 18:54 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20071005123028.GA10372@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-05 12:30 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-05 17:20 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20071006023224.GA7526@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-06 2:32 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-07 23:54 ` David Chinner
[not found] ` <20071008003349.GA5455@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-08 0:33 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-04 21:07 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 21:56 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-04 22:39 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 23:09 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-04 23:26 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 23:48 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-05 0:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-05 0:48 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-05 8:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-05 9:22 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-05 9:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-05 10:27 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-05 10:32 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-05 15:43 ` John Stoffel [this message]
2007-10-05 10:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-05 11:27 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-05 17:50 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-10-05 18:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-05 19:20 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-10-05 19:23 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-10-05 21:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20071006004028.GA7121@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-06 0:40 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-05 7:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-05 19:54 ` Rik van Riel
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