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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND v3 07/10] mm/vma: introduce helper struct + thread through exclusive lock fns
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2026 18:18:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17cfe757-c8a6-4f75-aeab-ee33ef6042a4@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <76e112da-a8b6-4004-9bce-2dcc29dea7fc@suse.cz>

On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 11:02:04AM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 1/22/26 14:01, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > It is confusing to have __vma_enter_exclusive_locked() return 0, 1 or an
> > error (but only when waiting for readers in TASK_KILLABLE state), and
> > having the return value be stored in a stack variable called 'locked' is
> > further confusion.
> >
> > More generally, we are doing a lock of rather finnicky things during the
> > acquisition of a state in which readers are excluded and moving out of this
> > state, including tracking whether we are detached or not or whether an
> > error occurred.
> >
> > We are implementing logic in __vma_enter_exclusive_locked() that
> > effectively acts as if 'if one caller calls us do X, if another then do Y',
> > which is very confusing from a control flow perspective.
> >
> > Introducing the shared helper object state helps us avoid this, as we can
> > now handle the 'an error arose but we're detached' condition correctly in
> > both callers - a warning if not detaching, and treating the situation as if
> > no error arose in the case of a VMA detaching.
> >
> > This also acts to help document what's going on and allows us to add some
> > more logical debug asserts.
> >
> > Also update vma_mark_detached() to add a guard clause for the likely
> > 'already detached' state (given we hold the mmap write lock), and add a
> > comment about ephemeral VMA read lock reference count increments to clarify
> > why we are entering/exiting an exclusive locked state here.
> >
> > No functional change intended.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
> > ---
> >  mm/mmap_lock.c | 144 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------------------
> >  1 file changed, 91 insertions(+), 53 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/mm/mmap_lock.c b/mm/mmap_lock.c
> > index f73221174a8b..75166a43ffa4 100644
> > --- a/mm/mmap_lock.c
> > +++ b/mm/mmap_lock.c
> > @@ -46,20 +46,40 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(__mmap_lock_do_trace_released);
> >  #ifdef CONFIG_MMU
> >  #ifdef CONFIG_PER_VMA_LOCK
> >
> > +/* State shared across __vma_[enter, exit]_exclusive_locked(). */
> > +struct vma_exclude_readers_state {
> > +	/* Input parameters. */
> > +	struct vm_area_struct *vma;
> > +	int state; /* TASK_KILLABLE or TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE. */
> > +	bool detaching;
> > +
> > +	bool detached;
> > +	bool exclusive; /* Are we exclusively locked? */
> > +};
> > +
> >  /*
> >   * Now that all readers have been evicted, mark the VMA as being out of the
> >   * 'exclude readers' state.
> >   *
> >   * Returns true if the VMA is now detached, otherwise false.
> >   */
> > -static bool __must_check __vma_exit_exclusive_locked(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> > +static void __vma_exit_exclusive_locked(struct vma_exclude_readers_state *ves)
> >  {
> > -	bool detached;
> > +	struct vm_area_struct *vma = ves->vma;
> > +
> > +	VM_WARN_ON_ONCE(ves->detached);
> > +	VM_WARN_ON_ONCE(!ves->exclusive);
>
> I think this will triger when called on wait failure from
> __vma_enter_exclusive_locked(). Given the other things Suren raised about
> the field, I wonder if it's worth keeping it?

He was suggesting I use ves->exclusive over ves->detached? I've now actioned
those changes so... yeh not dropping that.

But you're right that assert is wrong, removed.

>
> > -	detached = refcount_sub_and_test(VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG,
> > -					 &vma->vm_refcnt);
> > +	ves->detached = refcount_sub_and_test(VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG,
> > +					      &vma->vm_refcnt);
> >  	__vma_lockdep_release_exclusive(vma);
> > -	return detached;
> > +}
> > +
>
> > @@ -151,7 +176,12 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(__vma_start_write);
> >
> >  void vma_mark_detached(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> >  {
> > -	bool detached;
> > +	struct vma_exclude_readers_state ves = {
> > +		.vma = vma,
> > +		.state = TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE,
> > +		.detaching = true,
> > +	};
> > +	int err;
> >
> >  	vma_assert_write_locked(vma);
> >  	vma_assert_attached(vma);
> > @@ -160,18 +190,26 @@ void vma_mark_detached(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> >  	 * See the comment describing the vm_area_struct->vm_refcnt field for
> >  	 * details of possible refcnt values.
> >  	 */
> > -	detached = __vma_refcount_put(vma, NULL);
> > -	if (unlikely(!detached)) {
> > -		/* Wait until vma is detached with no readers. */
> > -		if (__vma_enter_exclusive_locked(vma, true, TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE)) {
> > -			/*
> > -			 * Once this is complete, no readers can increment the
> > -			 * reference count, and the VMA is marked detached.
> > -			 */
> > -			detached = __vma_exit_exclusive_locked(vma);
> > -			WARN_ON_ONCE(!detached);
> > -		}
> > +	if (likely(__vma_refcount_put(vma, NULL)))
> > +		return;
>
> Seems to me it would be worthwhile splitting this function to an
> static-inline-in-header vma_mark_detached() that does only the asserts and
> __vma_refcount_put(), and keeping the function here as __vma_mark_detached()
> (or maybe differently named since the detaching kinda already happened with
> the refcount put... __vma_mark_detached_finish()?) handling the rare case
> __vma_refcount_put() returns false.

Yeah good idea, that saves us always having the ves state etc. too and separates
it out nicely.

Have called it __vma_exclude_readers_for_detach(), and made the change.

>
> > +
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Wait until the VMA is detached with no readers. Since we hold the VMA
> > +	 * write lock, the only read locks that might be present are those from
> > +	 * threads trying to acquire the read lock and incrementing the
> > +	 * reference count before realising the write lock is held and
> > +	 * decrementing it.
> > +	 */
> > +	err = __vma_enter_exclusive_locked(&ves);
> > +	if (!err && !ves.detached) {
> > +		/*
> > +		 * Once this is complete, no readers can increment the
> > +		 * reference count, and the VMA is marked detached.
> > +		 */
> > +		__vma_exit_exclusive_locked(&ves);
> >  	}
> > +	/* If an error arose but we were detached anyway, we don't care. */
> > +	WARN_ON_ONCE(!ves.detached);
> >  }
> >
> >  /*
> > --
> > 2.52.0
>

Cheers, Lorenzo


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-23 18:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-22 13:01 [PATCH RESEND v3 00/10] mm: add and use vma_assert_stabilised() helper Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 01/10] mm/vma: rename VMA_LOCK_OFFSET to VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 16:26   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-22 16:29     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 13:52       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 16:37   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 13:26     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 02/10] mm/vma: document possible vma->vm_refcnt values and reference comment Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 16:48   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-22 17:28     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 15:06       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 13:45     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 03/10] mm/vma: rename is_vma_write_only(), separate out shared refcount put Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 17:36   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-22 19:31     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23  8:24       ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 14:52         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 15:05           ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 15:07             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 14:41       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 10:04         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 14:02     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 04/10] mm/vma: add+use vma lockdep acquire/release defines Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 19:32   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-22 19:41     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23  8:41       ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 15:08         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 15:00     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23  8:48   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 15:10     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 05/10] mm/vma: de-duplicate __vma_enter_locked() error path Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 19:39   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 15:11     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23  8:54   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 15:10     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] mm/vma: clean up __vma_enter/exit_locked() Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:08   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 20:15   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-22 20:55     ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-23 16:15       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 16:33     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23  9:16   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 16:17     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 16:28       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 07/10] mm/vma: introduce helper struct + thread through exclusive lock fns Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 21:41   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 17:59     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 19:34       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 20:04         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 22:07           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-24  8:54             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26  6:09               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 10:02   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 18:18     ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2026-01-22 13:02 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 08/10] mm/vma: improve and document __is_vma_write_locked() Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 21:55   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 16:21     ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 17:42       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 18:44       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:02 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 09/10] mm/vma: update vma_assert_locked() to use lockdep Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 22:02   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 18:45     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 16:55   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 18:49     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:02 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 10/10] mm/vma: add and use vma_assert_stabilised() Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 22:12   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 18:54     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 17:10   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 18:51     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 23:35   ` Hillf Danton
2026-01-22 15:48 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 00/10] mm: add and use vma_assert_stabilised() helper Andrew Morton
2026-01-22 15:57   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 16:01     ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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