From: "NeilBrown" <neilb@suse.de>
To: "Yunsheng Lin" <yunshenglin0825@gmail.com>
Cc: "Yunsheng Lin" <linyunsheng@huawei.com>,
"Qu Wenruo" <wqu@suse.com>, "Yishai Hadas" <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
"Shameer Kolothum" <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
"Kevin Tian" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
"Chris Mason" <clm@fb.com>, "Josef Bacik" <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
"David Sterba" <dsterba@suse.com>, "Gao Xiang" <xiang@kernel.org>,
"Chao Yu" <chao@kernel.org>, "Yue Hu" <zbestahu@gmail.com>,
"Jeffle Xu" <jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com>,
"Sandeep Dhavale" <dhavale@google.com>,
"Carlos Maiolino" <cem@kernel.org>,
"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
"Ilias Apalodimas" <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
"Trond Myklebust" <trondmy@kernel.org>,
"Anna Schumaker" <anna@kernel.org>,
"Chuck Lever" <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
"Jeff Layton" <jlayton@kernel.org>,
"Olga Kornievskaia" <okorniev@redhat.com>,
"Dai Ngo" <Dai.Ngo@oracle.com>, "Tom Talpey" <tom@talpey.com>,
"Luiz Capitulino" <luizcap@redhat.com>,
"Mel Gorman" <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
"Dave Chinner" <david@fromorbit.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux.dev,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: alloc_pages_bulk: remove assumption of populating only NULL elements
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 11:10:48 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <174156544867.33508.5386967459254083056@noble.neil.brown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7abb0e8c-f565-48f0-a393-8dabbabc3fe2@gmail.com>
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, Yunsheng Lin wrote:
> On 3/8/2025 5:02 AM, NeilBrown wrote:
>
> ...
>
> >>
> >>> allocated pages in the array - just like the current
> >>> alloc_pages_bulk().
> >>
> >> I guess 'the total number of allocated pages in the array ' include
> >> the pages which are already in the array before calling the above
> >> API?
> >
> > Yes - just what the current function does.
> > Though I don't know that we really need that detail.
> > I think there are three interesting return values:
> >
> > - hard failure - don't bother trying again soon: maybe -ENOMEM
> > - success - all pages are allocated: maybe 0 (or 1?)
> > - partial success - at least one page allocated, ok to try again
> > immediately - maybe -EAGAIN (or 0).
>
> Yes, the above makes sense. And I guess returning '-ENOMEM' & '0' &
> '-EAGAIN' seems like a more explicit value.
>
> >
> >>
>
> ...
>
> >>
> >
> > If I were do work on this (and I'm not, so you don't have to follow my
> > ideas) I would separate the bulk_alloc into several inline functions and
> > combine them into the different interfaces that you want. This will
> > result in duplicated object code without duplicated source code. The
> > object code should be optimal.
>
> Thanks for the detailed suggestion, it seems feasible.
> If the 'add to a linked list' dispose was not removed in the [1],
> I guess it is worth trying.
> But I am not sure if it is still worth it at the cost of the above
> mentioned 'duplicated object code' considering the array defragmenting
> seem to be able to unify the dispose of 'add to end of array' and
> 'add to next hole in array'.
>
> I guess I can try with the easier one using array defragmenting first,
> and try below if there is more complicated use case.
Your post observes a performance improvement - slight though it is.
I might be worth measuring the performance change for a case that
requires defragmenting to see how that compares.
Thanks,
NeilBrown
>
> 1.
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/f1c75db91d08cafd211eca6a3b199b629d4ffe16.1734991165.git.luizcap@redhat.com/
>
> >
> > The parts of the function are:
> > - validity checks - fallback to single page allocation
> > - select zone - fallback to single page allocation
> > - allocate multiple pages in the zone and dispose of them
> > - allocate a single page
> >
> > The "dispose of them" is one of
> > - add to a linked list
> > - add to end of array
> > - add to next hole in array
> >
> > These three could be inline functions that the "allocate multiple pages"
> > and "allocate single page" functions call. We can pass these as
> > function arguments and the compile will inline them.
> > I imagine these little function would take one page and return
> > a bool indicating if any more are wanted.
> >
> > The three functions: alloc_bulk_array alloc_bulk_list
> > alloc_bulk_refill_array would each look like:
> >
> > validity checks: do we need to allocate anything?
> >
> > if want more than one page &&
> > am allowed to do mulipage (e.g. not __GFP_ACCOUNT) &&
> > zone = choose_zone() {
> > alloc_multi_from_zone(zone, dispose_function)
> > }
> > if nothing allocated
> > alloc_single_page(dispose_function)
> >
> > Each would have a different dispose_function and the initial checks
> > would be quite different, as would the return value.
> >
> > Thanks for working on this.
> >
> > NeilBrown
> >
>
>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-10 0:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-28 9:44 Yunsheng Lin
2025-03-03 22:13 ` Chuck Lever
2025-03-04 12:04 ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-03-04 8:18 ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-04 12:09 ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-03-08 6:43 ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-09 13:40 ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-03-10 0:32 ` Gao Xiang
2025-03-10 12:31 ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-03-10 12:59 ` Gao Xiang
2025-03-11 22:55 ` NeilBrown
2025-03-12 1:45 ` Gao Xiang
2025-03-12 12:05 ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-03-12 12:41 ` Gao Xiang
2025-03-04 9:17 ` Qu Wenruo
2025-03-05 12:17 ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-03-05 23:41 ` NeilBrown
2025-03-06 11:43 ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-03-06 21:14 ` NeilBrown
2025-03-07 9:23 ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-03-07 21:02 ` NeilBrown
2025-03-09 13:23 ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-03-10 0:10 ` NeilBrown [this message]
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=174156544867.33508.5386967459254083056@noble.neil.brown.name \
--to=neilb@suse.de \
--cc=Dai.Ngo@oracle.com \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=alex.williamson@redhat.com \
--cc=anna@kernel.org \
--cc=cem@kernel.org \
--cc=chao@kernel.org \
--cc=chuck.lever@oracle.com \
--cc=clm@fb.com \
--cc=davem@davemloft.net \
--cc=david@fromorbit.com \
--cc=dhavale@google.com \
--cc=djwong@kernel.org \
--cc=dsterba@suse.com \
--cc=edumazet@google.com \
--cc=hawk@kernel.org \
--cc=horms@kernel.org \
--cc=ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org \
--cc=jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com \
--cc=jgg@ziepe.ca \
--cc=jlayton@kernel.org \
--cc=josef@toxicpanda.com \
--cc=kevin.tian@intel.com \
--cc=kuba@kernel.org \
--cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
--cc=linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linyunsheng@huawei.com \
--cc=luizcap@redhat.com \
--cc=mgorman@techsingularity.net \
--cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=okorniev@redhat.com \
--cc=pabeni@redhat.com \
--cc=shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com \
--cc=tom@talpey.com \
--cc=trondmy@kernel.org \
--cc=virtualization@lists.linux.dev \
--cc=wqu@suse.com \
--cc=xiang@kernel.org \
--cc=yishaih@nvidia.com \
--cc=yunshenglin0825@gmail.com \
--cc=zbestahu@gmail.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox