From: Nikita Danilov <nikita@clusterfs.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@novell.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>,
Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@sgi.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove OOM killer from try_to_free_pages / all_unreclaimable braindamage
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 19:54:12 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <16781.436.710721.667909@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041106153209.GC3851@dualathlon.random>
Andrea Arcangeli writes:
> On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 02:37:05PM +0300, Nikita Danilov wrote:
> > We need page-reservation API of some sort. There were several attempts
> > to introduce this, but none get into mainline.
>
> they're already in under the name of mempools
I am talking about slightly different thing. Think of some operation
that calls find_or_create_page(). find_or_create_page() doesn't know
about memory reserved in mempools, it uses alloc_page() directly. If one
wants to guarantee that compound operation has enough memory to
complete, memory should be reserved at the lowest level---in the page
allocator.
>
> I'm perfectly aware the fs tends to be the less correct places in terms
> of allocations, and luckily it's not an heavy memory user, so I still
Either you are kidding, or we are facing very different workloads. In
the world of file-system development, file-system is (not surprisingly)
single largest memory consumer.
> have to see a deadlock in getblk or create_buffers or similar. It's
> mostly a correctness issue (math proof it can't deadlock, right now it
> can if more tasks all get stuck in getblk at the same time during a hard
> oom condition etc..).
Add here mmap that can dirty all physical memory behind your back, and
delayed disk block allocation that forces ->writepage() to allocate
potentially huge extent when memory is already tight and hope of having
a proof becomes quite remote.
Nikita.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-11-06 16:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-11-05 20:01 Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-05 23:32 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-11-05 23:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-06 1:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 1:26 ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-06 1:36 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-11-06 1:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 9:47 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-11-06 10:53 ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-06 15:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 15:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 16:21 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-12-10 6:02 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-11-06 11:37 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-06 15:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 16:54 ` Nikita Danilov [this message]
2004-11-06 17:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 19:24 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-07 1:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 10:11 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-06 1:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-06 10:28 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-17 22:54 ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-17 23:27 ` Chris Ross
2004-11-18 0:04 ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-18 0:28 ` Chris Ross
2004-11-18 1:14 ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-18 8:20 ` Chris Ross
2004-11-18 10:01 ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-18 14:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-18 15:10 ` Chris Friesen
2004-11-06 10:05 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-06 15:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 15:52 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-11-06 17:09 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-07 0:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-07 11:21 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-06 12:53 ` [PATCH] Remove OOM killer Andries Brouwer
2004-11-06 10:41 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-07 9:26 ` Marko Macek
2004-11-08 16:27 ` [PATCH] Remove OOM killer from try_to_free_pages / all_unreclaimable braindamage Marcelo Tosatti
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