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From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Cc: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, hughd@google.com, willy@infradead.org,
	ljs@kernel.org, lance.yang@linux.dev, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: shmem: don't set large-order range for internal shmem mount
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2026 09:22:40 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16745f2b-b008-4df1-ac76-f18b4a826dbd@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <846B17B0-1BAF-4959-8FC2-42744C44B1D6@nvidia.com>



On 4/16/26 9:11 AM, Zi Yan wrote:
> On 15 Apr 2026, at 21:05, Baolin Wang wrote:
> 
>> On 4/15/26 10:36 PM, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>> On 4/15/26 12:05, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/15/26 5:54 PM, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, that makes sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, it’s also possible that the mapping does not support large
>>>>>> folios, yet anonymous shmem can still allocate large folios via the
>>>>>> sysfs interfaces. That doesn't make sense, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> That's what I am saying: if there could be large folios in there, then
>>>>> let's tell the world.
>>>>>
>>>>> Getting in a scenario where the mapping claims to not support large
>>>>> folios, but then we have large folios in there is inconsistent, not?
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the current anonymous shmem (tmpfs is already clear, no questions),
>>>>>> I don’t think there will be any "will never have/does never allow"
>>>>>> cases, because it can be changed dynamically via the sysfs interfaces.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right. It's about non-anon shmem with huge=off.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we still want that logic, then for anonymous shmem we can treat it as
>>>>>> always "might have large folios".
>>>>
>>>> OK. To resolve the confusion about 1, the logic should be changed as
>>>> follows. Does that make sense to you?
>>>>
>>>> if (sbinfo->huge || (sb->s_flags & SB_KERNMOUNT))
>>>>       mapping_set_large_folios(inode->i_mapping);
>>>
>>> I think that's better.
>>
>> Thanks for your valuable input.
>>
>> But has Willy says, maybe we can just
>>> unconditionally set it and have it even simpler.
>>
>> However, for tmpfs mounts, we should still respect the 'huge=' mount option. See commit 5a90c155defa ("tmpfs: don't enable large folios if not supported").
> 
> Is it possible to get sbinfo->huge during tmpfs’s folio allocation time, so that
> even if all tmpfs has mapping_set_large_folios() but sbinfo->huge can still
> decide whether huge page will be allocated for a tmpfs?

Yes, of course. However, the issue isn’t whether tmpfs allows allocating 
large folios.

The problem commit 5a90c155defa tries to fix is that when tmpfs is 
mounted with the 'huge=never' option, we will not allocate large folios 
for it. Then when writing tmpfs files, generic_perform_write() will call 
mapping_max_folio_size() to get the chunk size and ends up with an 
order-9 size for writing tmpfs files. However, this tmpfs file is 
populated only with small folios, resulting in a performance regression.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-16  1:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-15  8:22 Baolin Wang
2026-04-15  8:47 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-15  9:04   ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-15  9:19     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-15  9:41       ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-15  9:54         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-15 10:05           ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-15 14:36             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-16  1:05               ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-16  1:11                 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-16  1:22                   ` Baolin Wang [this message]
2026-04-16  1:36                     ` Zi Yan
2026-04-16  1:45                       ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-16  1:52                         ` Zi Yan
2026-04-16  2:08                           ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-15 13:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-16  1:02   ` Baolin Wang

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