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From: "NeilBrown" <neilb@suse.de>
To: "Hugh Dickins" <hughd@google.com>
Cc: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Trond Myklebust" <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>,
	"Anna Schumaker" <anna.schumaker@netapp.com>,
	"Chuck Lever" <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Mel Gorman" <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/23] MM: extend block-plugging to cover all swap reads with read-ahead
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 11:32:02 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <164324352246.5493.62203138362718756@noble.neil.brown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eeec206a-d255-a3e4-ec1e-e51a13e5118c@google.com>

On Thu, 27 Jan 2022, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2022, NeilBrown wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 Jan 2022, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 02:48:32PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> > > > Code that does swap read-ahead uses blk_start_plug() and
> > > > blk_finish_plug() to allow lower levels to combine multiple read-ahead
> > > > pages into a single request, but calls blk_finish_plug() *before*
> > > > submitting the original (non-ahead) read request.
> > > > This missed an opportunity to combine read requests.
> 
> No, you're misunderstanding there.  All the necessary reads are issued
> within the loop, between the plug and unplug: it does not skip over
> the target page in the loop, but issues its read along with the rest.
> 
> But it has not kept any of those pages locked, nor even kept any
> refcounts raised: so at the end has to look up the target page again
> with the final read_swap_cache_async() (which also copes with the
> highly unlikely case that the page got swapped out again meanwhile).
> 
....
> 
> I don't suppose your patch does any actual harm (beyond propagating a
> misunderstanding), but it's certainly not a fix, and I think should
> simply be dropped from the series.

Thanks - I had missed that.  The code is correct, but looks wrong (to
me).
I've dropped the patch, but added a comment when I add
"swap_read_unplug()" to explain while plugging isn't needed for that
final read_swap_cache_async().

> 
> (But please don't expect any comment from me on the rest:
> SWP_FS_OPS has always been beyond my understanding.)

:-)

Thanks,
NeilBrown


  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-27  0:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-24  3:48 [PATCH 00/23 V3] Repair SWAP-over_NFS NeilBrown
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 11/23] VFS: Add FMODE_CAN_ODIRECT file flag NeilBrown
2022-01-24  8:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-26 22:14     ` NeilBrown
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 12/23] NFS: remove IS_SWAPFILE hack NeilBrown
2022-01-24  8:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 08/23] DOC: update documentation for swap_activate and swap_rw NeilBrown
2022-01-24  8:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 18/23] SUNRPC: remove scheduling boost for "SWAPPER" tasks NeilBrown
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 16/23] SUNRPC/auth: async tasks mustn't block waiting for memory NeilBrown
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 10/23] MM: submit multipage write for SWP_FS_OPS swap-space NeilBrown
2022-01-24  8:55   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24 10:29   ` kernel test robot
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 07/23] MM: perform async writes to SWP_FS_OPS swap-space using ->swap_rw NeilBrown
2022-01-24  8:49   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 05/23] MM: reclaim mustn't enter FS for SWP_FS_OPS swap-space NeilBrown
2022-01-24  7:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 04/23] MM: move responsibility for setting SWP_FS_OPS to ->swap_activate NeilBrown
2022-01-24  7:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 13/23] NFS: rename nfs_direct_IO and use as ->swap_rw NeilBrown
2022-01-24  8:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 14/23] NFS: swap IO handling is slightly different for O_DIRECT IO NeilBrown
2022-01-24  8:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24 13:22   ` Mark Hemment
2022-01-26 22:51     ` NeilBrown
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 01/23] MM: create new mm/swap.h header file NeilBrown
2022-02-07 13:51   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 20/23] SUNRPC: improve 'swap' handling: scheduling and PF_MEMALLOC NeilBrown
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 09/23] MM: submit multipage reads for SWP_FS_OPS swap-space NeilBrown
2022-01-24  8:25   ` kernel test robot
2022-01-24  8:52   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24  9:27   ` kernel test robot
2022-01-24 13:16   ` Mark Hemment
2022-01-26 22:04     ` NeilBrown
2022-02-08 11:07   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 15/23] SUNRPC/call_alloc: async tasks mustn't block waiting for memory NeilBrown
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 17/23] SUNRPC/xprt: " NeilBrown
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 19/23] NFS: discard NFS_RPC_SWAPFLAGS and RPC_TASK_ROOTCREDS NeilBrown
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 03/23] MM: drop swap_set_page_dirty NeilBrown
2022-01-24  7:28   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 22/23] NFS: swap-out must always use STABLE writes NeilBrown
2022-01-26  3:45   ` Trond Myklebust
2022-01-26 21:42     ` NeilBrown
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 23/23] SUNRPC: lock against ->sock changing during sysfs read NeilBrown
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 06/23] MM: introduce ->swap_rw and use it for reads from SWP_FS_OPS swap-space NeilBrown
2022-01-24  8:48   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 21/23] NFSv4: keep state manager thread active if swap is enabled NeilBrown
2022-01-24  3:48 ` [PATCH 02/23] MM: extend block-plugging to cover all swap reads with read-ahead NeilBrown
2022-01-24  7:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-26 21:47     ` NeilBrown
2022-01-26 23:09       ` Hugh Dickins
2022-01-27  0:32         ` NeilBrown [this message]
2022-02-07 17:55 ` [PATCH 00/23 V3] Repair SWAP-over_NFS Geert Uytterhoeven

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