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From: "NeilBrown" <neilb@suse.de>
To: "Mel Gorman" <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
Cc: "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Andreas Dilger" <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"Dave Chinner" <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"Rik van Riel" <riel@surriel.com>,
	"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Linux-MM" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Linux-fsdevel" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"LKML" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/8] Remove dependency on congestion_wait in mm/
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 22:26:30 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <163490199006.17149.17259708448207042563@noble.neil.brown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211022083927.GI3959@techsingularity.net>

On Fri, 22 Oct 2021, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 12:15:10PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> 
> > In general, I still don't like the use of wake_up_all(), though it won't
> > cause incorrect behaviour.
> > 
> 
> Removing wake_up_all would be tricky.

I think there is a misunderstanding.  Removing wake_up_all() is as
simple as
   s/wake_up_all/wake_up/

If you used prepare_to_wait_exclusive(), then wake_up() would only wake
one waiter, while wake_up_all() would wake all of them.
As you use prepare_to_wait(), wake_up() will wake all waiters - as will
wake_up_all(). 

When I see "wake_up_all()" I assume it is an exclusive wait, and that
for some reason this particular wake_up needs to wake up all waiters.
That is not the case here.

I suspect it would be clearer if "wake_up" always woke everything, and
"wake_up_one" was the special case - but unfortunately that isn't what
we have.

There are other non-exclusive waiters which use wake_up_all(), but the
vast majority of wakeups use wake_up(), and most of those are for
non-exclusive waiters.

Thanks,
NeilBrown


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-22 11:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-19  9:01 Mel Gorman
2021-10-19  9:01 ` [PATCH 1/8] mm/vmscan: Throttle reclaim until some writeback completes if congested Mel Gorman
2021-10-19  9:01 ` [PATCH 2/8] mm/vmscan: Throttle reclaim and compaction when too may pages are isolated Mel Gorman
2021-10-19 17:12   ` Yang Shi
2021-10-19  9:01 ` [PATCH 3/8] mm/vmscan: Throttle reclaim when no progress is being made Mel Gorman
2021-10-19  9:01 ` [PATCH 4/8] mm/writeback: Throttle based on page writeback instead of congestion Mel Gorman
2021-10-19  9:01 ` [PATCH 5/8] mm/page_alloc: Remove the throttling logic from the page allocator Mel Gorman
2021-10-19  9:20   ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-10-19  9:01 ` [PATCH 6/8] mm/vmscan: Centralise timeout values for reclaim_throttle Mel Gorman
2021-10-22  1:06   ` NeilBrown
2021-10-22  8:12     ` Mel Gorman
2021-10-19  9:01 ` [PATCH 7/8] mm/vmscan: Increase the timeout if page reclaim is not making progress Mel Gorman
2021-10-22  1:07   ` NeilBrown
2021-10-22  8:14     ` Mel Gorman
2021-10-19  9:01 ` [PATCH 8/8] mm/vmscan: Delay waking of tasks throttled on NOPROGRESS Mel Gorman
2021-10-19 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 0/8] Remove dependency on congestion_wait in mm/ Andrew Morton
2021-10-20  8:44   ` Mel Gorman
2021-10-22  1:15 ` NeilBrown
2021-10-22  8:39   ` Mel Gorman
2021-10-22 11:26     ` NeilBrown [this message]
2021-10-22 13:17       ` Mel Gorman
2021-10-27  0:43         ` NeilBrown
2021-10-27 10:13           ` Mel Gorman

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