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There are 2 problems with this; 1. >>>>> this is not what was implemented by the code and 2. this is not the >>>>> desirable behavior. >>>>> >>>>> Desirable behavior is for khugepaged to be enabled when any PMD-sized >>>>> THP is enabled, anon or file. (Note that file THP is still controlled by >>>>> the top-level control so we must always consider that, as well as the >>>>> PMD-size mTHP control for anon). khugepaged only supports collapsing to >>>>> PMD-sized THP so there is no value in enabling it when PMD-sized THP is >>>>> disabled. So let's change the code and documentation to reflect this >>>>> policy. >>>>> >>>>> Further, per-size enabled control modification events were not >>>>> previously forwarded to khugepaged to give it an opportunity to start or >>>>> stop. Consequently the following was resulting in khugepaged eroneously >>>>> not being activated: >>>>> >>>>>     echo never > /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled >>>>>     echo always > /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-2048kB/enabled >>>>> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Ryan Roberts >>>>> Fixes: 3485b88390b0 ("mm: thp: introduce multi-size THP sysfs interface") >>>>> Closes: >>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/7a0bbe69-1e3d-4263-b206-da007791a5c4@redhat.com/ >>>>> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org >>>>> --- >>>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> Applies on top of today's mm-unstable (9bb8753acdd8). No regressions >>>>> observed in >>>>> mm selftests. >>>>> >>>>> When fixing this I also noticed that khugepaged doesn't get (and never has >>>>> been) >>>>> activated/deactivated by `shmem_enabled=`. I'm not sure if khugepaged knows how >>>>> to collapse shmem - perhaps it should be activated in this case? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Call me confused. >>>> >>>> khugepaged_scan_mm_slot() and madvise_collapse() only all >>>> hpage_collapse_scan_file() with ... IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_SHMEM) ? >>> >>> Looks like khugepaged_scan_mm_slot() was converted from: >>> >>>    if (shmem_file(vma->vm_file)) { >>> >>> to: >>> >>>    if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_SHMEM) && vma->vm_file) { > > CONFIG_READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS depends on CONFIG_SHMEM in Kconfig, so I think this is all correct/safe. Although I'm not really sure what the need for the dependency is. Right. It's likely some historical artifact ... [...] > > I'll do a v2 with this addition if you agree? > > static inline bool hugepage_pmd_enabled(void) > { > /* > * We cover both the anon and the file-backed case here; for > * file-backed, we must return true if globally enabled, regardless of > * the anon pmd size control status. > */ > return (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS) && hugepage_global_enabled()) || > test_bit(PMD_ORDER, &huge_anon_orders_always) || > test_bit(PMD_ORDER, &huge_anon_orders_madvise) || > (test_bit(PMD_ORDER, &huge_anon_orders_inherit) && hugepage_global_enabled()); > } > I think this looks good :) >>> >>> But back to my original question, I think hugepage_pmd_enabled() should also be >>> explicitly checking the appropriate shmem_enabled controls and ORing in the >>> result? Otherwise in a situation where only shmem is THP enabled (and file/anon >>> THP is disabled) khugepaged won't run. >> >> I think so. > > I'll do this part as a separate change since it's fixing a separate bug. Makes sense. > >> >>> >>>> >>>> The thp_vma_allowable_order() check tests if we are allowed to collapse a >>>> PMD_ORDER in that VMA. >>> >>> I don't follow the relevance of this statement. >> >> On whatever VMA we indicate true, we will try to collapse in khugepaged. >> Regarding the question, what khugepaged will try to collapse. > > Oh I see. Yes agreed. But we don't have a VMA when enabling/disabling khugepaged. We just want to know "are there vmas for which khugepaged would attempt to collapse to PMD size?" Yes, only to give you a pointer on which VMAs khugepaged will be willing to work with. -- Cheers, David / dhildenb