From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Leonardo Bras <leonardo@linux.ibm.com>,
<linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Richard Fontana <rfontana@redhat.com>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
YueHaibing <yuehaibing@huawei.com>,
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Ganesh Goudar <ganeshgr@linux.ibm.com>,
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Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 11/11] powerpc/mm/book3s64/pgtable: Uses counting method to skip serializing
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 12:58:32 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1568b3ef-cec9-bf47-edaa-c775c2f544fb@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dc9fad3577551d34ead36c0f7340a573086c0cab.camel@linux.ibm.com>
On 9/23/19 12:40 PM, Leonardo Bras wrote:
> On Mon, 2019-09-23 at 11:14 -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
>> On 9/23/19 10:25 AM, Leonardo Bras wrote:
>> [...]
>> That part is all fine, but there are no run-time memory barriers in the
>> atomic_inc() and atomic_dec() additions, which means that this is not
>> safe, because memory operations on CPU 1 can be reordered. It's safe
>> as shown *if* there are memory barriers to keep the order as shown:
>>
>> CPU 0 CPU 1
>> ------ --------------
>> atomic_inc(val) (no run-time memory barrier!)
>> pmd_clear(pte)
>> if (val)
>> run_on_all_cpus(): IPI
>> local_irq_disable() (also not a mem barrier)
>>
>> READ(pte)
>> if(pte)
>> walk page tables
>>
>> local_irq_enable() (still not a barrier)
>> atomic_dec(val)
>>
>> free(pte)
>>
>> thanks,
>
> This is serialize:
>
> void serialize_against_pte_lookup(struct mm_struct *mm)
> {
> smp_mb();
> if (running_lockless_pgtbl_walk(mm))
> smp_call_function_many(mm_cpumask(mm), do_nothing,
> NULL, 1);
> }
>
> That would mean:
>
> CPU 0 CPU 1
> ------ --------------
> atomic_inc(val)
> pmd_clear(pte)
> smp_mb()
> if (val)
> run_on_all_cpus(): IPI
> local_irq_disable()
>
> READ(pte)
> if(pte)
> walk page tables
>
> local_irq_enable() (still not a barrier)
> atomic_dec(val)
>
> By https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt :
> 'If you need all the CPUs to see a given store at the same time, use
> smp_mb().'
>
> Is it not enough?
Nope. CPU 1 memory accesses could be re-ordered, as I said above:
CPU 0 CPU 1
------ --------------
READ(pte) (re-ordered at run time)
atomic_inc(val) (no run-time memory barrier!)
pmd_clear(pte)
if (val)
run_on_all_cpus(): IPI
local_irq_disable() (also not a mem barrier)
if(pte)
walk page tables
...
> Do you suggest adding 'smp_mb()' after atomic_{inc,dec} ?
>
Yes (approximately: I'd have to look closer to see which barrier call is really
required). Unless there is something else that is providing the barrier, which
is why I called this a pre-existing question: it seems like the interrupt
interlock in the current gup_fast() might not have what it needs.
In other words, if your code needs a barrier, then the pre-existing gup_fast()
code probably does, too.
thanks,
--
John Hubbard
NVIDIA
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[not found] <20190920195047.7703-1-leonardo@linux.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <1f5d9380418ad8bb90c6bbdac34716c650b917a0.camel@linux.ibm.com>
2019-09-20 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Introduces new count-based method for monitoring lockless pagetable wakls John Hubbard
2019-09-23 20:51 ` John Hubbard
2019-09-23 20:58 ` Leonardo Bras
[not found] ` <20190920195047.7703-12-leonardo@linux.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <1b39eaa7-751d-40bc-d3d7-41aaa15be42a@nvidia.com>
[not found] ` <24863d8904c6e05e5dd48cab57db4274675ae654.camel@linux.ibm.com>
2019-09-21 0:48 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] powerpc/mm/book3s64/pgtable: Uses counting method to skip serializing John Hubbard
2019-09-23 17:25 ` Leonardo Bras
2019-09-23 18:14 ` John Hubbard
2019-09-23 19:40 ` Leonardo Bras
2019-09-23 19:58 ` John Hubbard [this message]
2019-09-23 20:23 ` Leonardo Bras
2019-09-23 20:26 ` John Hubbard
[not found] ` <20190920195047.7703-4-leonardo@linux.ibm.com>
2019-09-23 20:27 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] mm/gup: Applies counting method to monitor gup_pgd_range John Hubbard
2019-09-23 21:01 ` Leonardo Bras
2019-09-23 21:09 ` John Hubbard
[not found] ` <20190920195047.7703-3-leonardo@linux.ibm.com>
2019-09-23 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] asm-generic/pgtable: Adds dummy functions to monitor lockless pgtable walks John Hubbard
2019-09-23 20:48 ` Leonardo Bras
2019-09-23 20:53 ` John Hubbard
[not found] ` <20190920195047.7703-2-leonardo@linux.ibm.com>
2019-09-23 20:42 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] powerpc/mm: Adds counting method " John Hubbard
2019-09-23 20:50 ` Leonardo Bras
[not found] ` <20190920195047.7703-9-leonardo@linux.ibm.com>
2019-09-23 20:47 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] powerpc/kvm/book3s_hv: Applies counting method to monitor lockless pgtbl walks John Hubbard
2019-09-24 21:23 [PATCH v2 11/11] powerpc/mm/book3s64/pgtable: Uses counting method to skip serializing Leonardo Bras
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