From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
John David Anglin <dave.anglin@bell.net>,
linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Zi Yan <zi.yan@cs.rutgers.edu>
Subject: Re: Memory management broken by "mm: reclaim small amounts of memory when an external fragmentation event occurs"
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 07:29:09 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1554733749.3137.6.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190408095224.GA18914@techsingularity.net>
On Mon, 2019-04-08 at 10:52 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> First, if pa-risc is !NUMA then why are separate local ranges
> represented as separate nodes? Is it because of DISCONTIGMEM or
> something else? DISCONTIGMEM is before my time so I'm not familiar
> with it and I consider it "essentially dead" but the arch init code
> seems to setup pgdats for each physical contiguous range so it's a
> possibility. The most likely explanation is pa-risc does not have
> hardware with addressing limitations smaller than the CPUs physical
> address limits and it's possible to have more ranges than available
> zones but clarification would be nice.
Let me try, since I remember the ancient history. In the early days,
there had to be a single mem_map array covering all of physical memory.
Some pa-risc systems had huge gaps in the physical memory; I think one
gap was somewhere around 1GB, so this lead us to wasting huge amounts
of space in mem_map on non-existent memory. What CONFIG_DISCONTIGMEM
did was allow you to represent this discontinuity on a non-NUMA system
using numa nodes, so we effectively got one node per discontiguous
range. It's hacky, but it worked. I thought we finally got converted
to sparsemem by the NUMA people, but I can't find the commit.
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-04-08 14:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-04-06 15:20 Mikulas Patocka
2019-04-06 17:26 ` Mikulas Patocka
2019-04-08 9:52 ` Mel Gorman
2019-04-08 11:10 ` Mikulas Patocka
2019-04-08 12:54 ` Mel Gorman
2019-04-08 14:29 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2019-04-08 15:22 ` Helge Deller
2019-04-08 19:44 ` James Bottomley
2019-04-09 20:09 ` Helge Deller
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