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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	hch@infradead.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	 virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	peterx@redhat.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH V2 0/5] vhost: accelerate metadata access through vmap()
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 15:57:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1552431434.14432.47.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190312225032.GD25147@redhat.com>

On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 18:50 -0400, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 03:02:54PM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> > I'm sure there must be workarounds elsewhere in the other arch code
> > otherwise things like this, which appear all over drivers/,
> > wouldn't
> > work:
> > 
> > drivers/scsi/isci/request.c:1430
> > 
> > 	kaddr = kmap_atomic(page);
> > 	memcpy(kaddr + sg->offset, src_addr, copy_len);
> > 	kunmap_atomic(kaddr);
> > 
> 
> Are you sure "page" is an userland page with an alias address?
> 
> 	sg->page_link = (unsigned long)virt_to_page(addr);

Yes, it's an element of a scatter gather list, which may be either a
kernel page or a user page, but is usually the latter.

> page_link seems to point to kernel memory.
> 
> I found an apparent solution like parisc on arm 32bit:
> 
> void __kunmap_atomic(void *kvaddr)
> {
> 	unsigned long vaddr = (unsigned long) kvaddr & PAGE_MASK;
> 	int idx, type;
> 
> 	if (kvaddr >= (void *)FIXADDR_START) {
> 		type = kmap_atomic_idx();
> 		idx = FIX_KMAP_BEGIN + type + KM_TYPE_NR *
> smp_processor_id();
> 
> 		if (cache_is_vivt())
> 			__cpuc_flush_dcache_area((void *)vaddr,
> PAGE_SIZE);
> 
> However on arm 64bit kunmap_atomic is not implemented at all and
> other 32bit implementations don't do it, for example sparc seems to
> do the cache flush too if the kernel is built with
> CONFIG_DEBUG_HIGHMEM (which makes the flushing conditional to the
> debug option).
> 
> The kunmap_atomic where fixmap is used, is flushing the tlb lazily so
> even on 32bit you can't even be sure if there was a tlb flush for
> each single page you unmapped, so it's hard to see how the above can
> work safe, is "page" would have been an userland page mapped with
> aliased CPU cache.
> 
> > the sequence dirties the kernel virtual address but doesn't flush
> > before doing kunmap.  There are hundreds of other examples which is
> > why I think adding flush_kernel_dcache_page() is an already lost
> > cause.
> 
> In lots of cases kmap is needed to just modify kernel memory not to
> modify userland memory (where get/put_user is more commonly used
> instead..), there's no cache aliasing in such case.

That's why I picked drivers/  The use case in there is mostly kmap to
put a special value into a scatter gather list entry.

> > Actually copy_user_page() is unused in the main kernel.  The big
> > problem is copy_user_highpage() but that's mostly highly optimised
> > by the VIPT architectures (in other words you can fiddle with kmap
> > without impacting it).
> 
> copy_user_page is not unused, it's called precisely by
> copy_user_highpage, which is why the cache flushes are done inside
> copy_user_page.
> 
> static inline void copy_user_highpage(struct page *to, struct page
> *from,
> 	unsigned long vaddr, struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> {
> 	char *vfrom, *vto;
> 
> 	vfrom = kmap_atomic(from);
> 	vto = kmap_atomic(to);
> 	copy_user_page(vto, vfrom, vaddr, to);
> 	kunmap_atomic(vto);
> 	kunmap_atomic(vfrom);
> }

That's the asm/generic implementation.  Most VIPT architectures
override it.

James


  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-12 22:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-06  7:18 Jason Wang
2019-03-06  7:18 ` [RFC PATCH V2 1/5] vhost: generalize adding used elem Jason Wang
2019-03-06  7:18 ` [RFC PATCH V2 2/5] vhost: fine grain userspace memory accessors Jason Wang
2019-03-06 10:45   ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-03-07  2:38     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-06  7:18 ` [RFC PATCH V2 3/5] vhost: rename vq_iotlb_prefetch() to vq_meta_prefetch() Jason Wang
2019-03-06  7:18 ` [RFC PATCH V2 4/5] vhost: introduce helpers to get the size of metadata area Jason Wang
2019-03-06 10:56   ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-03-07  2:40     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-06 18:43   ` Souptick Joarder
2019-03-07  2:42     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-06  7:18 ` [RFC PATCH V2 5/5] vhost: access vq metadata through kernel virtual address Jason Wang
2019-03-06 16:31   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-07  2:45     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-07 15:34       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-07 19:09         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-07 19:38           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-07 20:17             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-07 21:27               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-08  9:13                 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 19:11                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-11  7:21                     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-11 14:45                 ` Jan Kara
2019-03-08  8:31         ` Jason Wang
2019-03-07 15:47   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-07 17:56     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-07 19:16       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-08  8:50         ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 14:58           ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-11  7:18             ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 19:48           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-08 20:06             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-11  7:40             ` Jason Wang
2019-03-11 12:48               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-11 13:43                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12  2:56                   ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12  3:51                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12  2:52                 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12  3:50                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12  7:15                     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-07 19:17       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08  2:21         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-08  2:55           ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08  3:16             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-08  3:40               ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08  3:43                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-08  3:45                   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08  9:15                     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08  8:58         ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 12:56           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-08 15:02             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08 19:13           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-08 14:12 ` [RFC PATCH V2 0/5] vhost: accelerate metadata access through vmap() Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-11  7:13   ` Jason Wang
2019-03-11 13:59     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-11 18:14       ` David Miller
2019-03-12  2:59         ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12  3:52           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12  7:17             ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12 11:54               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12 15:46                 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 20:04                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 20:53                     ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 21:11                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 21:19                         ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 21:53                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 22:02                             ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 22:50                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 22:57                                 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2019-03-13 16:05                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-13 16:37                         ` James Bottomley
2019-03-14 10:42                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-14 13:49                             ` Jason Wang
2019-03-14 19:33                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-15  4:39                                 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12  5:14           ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12  7:51             ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12  7:53               ` Jason Wang

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