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From: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>
To: Michael Kelley <mhklinux@outlook.com>,
	Simona Vetter <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] fbdev/deferred-io: Support contiguous kernel memory framebuffers
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 17:35:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <154aa365-0e27-458c-b801-62fd1cbfa169@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR02MB415702B00D6D52B0EE962C98D46CA@SN6PR02MB4157.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Hi

Am 04.06.25 um 23:43 schrieb Michael Kelley:
[...]
> Nonetheless, there's an underlying issue. A main cause of the difference
> is the number of messages to Hyper-V to update dirty regions. With
> hyperv_fb using deferred I/O, the messages are limited 20/second, so
> the total number of messages to Hyper-V is about 480. But hyperv_drm
> appears to send 3 messages to Hyper-V for each line of output, or a total of
> about 3,000,000 messages (~90K/second). That's a lot of additional load
> on the Hyper-V host, and it adds the 10 seconds of additional elapsed
> time seen in the guest. There also this ugly output in dmesg because the
> ring buffer for sending messages to the Hyper-V host gets full -- Hyper-V
> doesn't always keep up, at least not on my local laptop where I'm
> testing:
>
> [12574.327615] hyperv_drm 5620e0c7-8062-4dce-aeb7-520c7ef76171: [drm] *ERROR* Unable to send packet via vmbus; error -11
> [12574.327684] hyperv_drm 5620e0c7-8062-4dce-aeb7-520c7ef76171: [drm] *ERROR* Unable to send packet via vmbus; error -11
> [12574.327760] hyperv_drm 5620e0c7-8062-4dce-aeb7-520c7ef76171: [drm] *ERROR* Unable to send packet via vmbus; error -11
> [12574.327841] hyperv_drm 5620e0c7-8062-4dce-aeb7-520c7ef76171: [drm] *ERROR* Unable to send packet via vmbus; error -11
> [12597.016128] hyperv_sendpacket: 6211 callbacks suppressed
> [12597.016133] hyperv_drm 5620e0c7-8062-4dce-aeb7-520c7ef76171: [drm] *ERROR* Unable to send packet via vmbus; error -11
> [12597.016172] hyperv_drm 5620e0c7-8062-4dce-aeb7-520c7ef76171: [drm] *ERROR* Unable to send packet via vmbus; error -11
> [12597.016220] hyperv_drm 5620e0c7-8062-4dce-aeb7-520c7ef76171: [drm] *ERROR* Unable to send packet via vmbus; error -11
> [12597.016267] hyperv_drm 5620e0c7-8062-4dce-aeb7-520c7ef76171: [drm] *ERROR* Unable to send packet via vmbus; error -11
>
> hyperv_drm could be fixed to not output the ugly messages, but there's
> still the underlying issue of overrunning the ring buffer, and excessively
> hammering on the host. If we could get hyperv_drm doing deferred I/O, I
> would feel much better about going full-on with deprecating hyperv_fb.

I try to address the problem with the patches at

https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20250605152637.98493-1-tzimmermann@suse.de/

Testing and feedback is much appreciated.

Best regards
Thomas

>
> Michael
>

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Thomas Zimmermann
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-05 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-23 16:15 [PATCH v3 0/4] fbdev: Add deferred I/O support for " mhkelley58
2025-05-23 16:15 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: Export vmf_insert_mixed_mkwrite() mhkelley58
2025-05-23 16:15 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] fbdev: Add flag indicating framebuffer is allocated from kernel memory mhkelley58
2025-05-23 16:15 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] fbdev/deferred-io: Support contiguous kernel memory framebuffers mhkelley58
2025-05-24  7:28   ` kernel test robot
2025-05-26  6:54   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-02  9:47   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-03  1:49     ` Michael Kelley
2025-06-03  6:25       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-06-03 17:50         ` Michael Kelley
2025-06-04  8:12           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-06-04 14:45             ` Simona Vetter
2025-06-04 21:43               ` Michael Kelley
2025-06-05  7:55                 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-06-05 15:35                 ` Thomas Zimmermann [this message]
2025-06-05 17:38                   ` Michael Kelley
2025-06-06  7:05                     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-06-11 23:18                     ` Michael Kelley
2025-06-12  7:25                       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-06-03  7:55       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-03 17:24         ` Michael Kelley
2025-06-04 21:58           ` Michael Kelley
2025-06-05  8:10             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-23 16:15 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] fbdev: hyperv_fb: Fix mmap of framebuffers allocated using alloc_pages() mhkelley58

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