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From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/14] Transparent Contiguous PTEs for User Mappings
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 11:52:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1537e042-1e73-4920-a1db-1eb32d66e32d@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4yhHuT1Sra+vEzfFykYM3Jdm85q6fRydX_3QjwHL38UMA@mail.gmail.com>

On 27/11/2023 22:53, Barry Song wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 12:11 AM Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 27/11/2023 10:35, Barry Song wrote:
>>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 10:15 PM Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 27/11/2023 03:18, Barry Song wrote:
>>>>>> Ryan Roberts (14):
>>>>>>   mm: Batch-copy PTE ranges during fork()
>>>>>>   arm64/mm: set_pte(): New layer to manage contig bit
>>>>>>   arm64/mm: set_ptes()/set_pte_at(): New layer to manage contig bit
>>>>>>   arm64/mm: pte_clear(): New layer to manage contig bit
>>>>>>   arm64/mm: ptep_get_and_clear(): New layer to manage contig bit
>>>>>>   arm64/mm: ptep_test_and_clear_young(): New layer to manage contig bit
>>>>>>   arm64/mm: ptep_clear_flush_young(): New layer to manage contig bit
>>>>>>   arm64/mm: ptep_set_wrprotect(): New layer to manage contig bit
>>>>>>   arm64/mm: ptep_set_access_flags(): New layer to manage contig bit
>>>>>>   arm64/mm: ptep_get(): New layer to manage contig bit
>>>>>>   arm64/mm: Split __flush_tlb_range() to elide trailing DSB
>>>>>>   arm64/mm: Wire up PTE_CONT for user mappings
>>>>>>   arm64/mm: Implement ptep_set_wrprotects() to optimize fork()
>>>>>>   arm64/mm: Add ptep_get_and_clear_full() to optimize process teardown
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ryan,
>>>>> Not quite sure if I missed something, are we splitting/unfolding CONTPTES
>>>>> in the below cases
>>>>
>>>> The general idea is that the core-mm sets the individual ptes (one at a time if
>>>> it likes with set_pte_at(), or in a block with set_ptes()), modifies its
>>>> permissions (ptep_set_wrprotect(), ptep_set_access_flags()) and clears them
>>>> (ptep_clear(), etc); This is exactly the same interface as previously.
>>>>
>>>> BUT, the arm64 implementation of those interfaces will now detect when a set of
>>>> adjacent PTEs (a contpte block - so 16 naturally aligned entries when using 4K
>>>> base pages) are all appropriate for having the CONT_PTE bit set; in this case
>>>> the block is "folded". And it will detect when the first PTE in the block
>>>> changes such that the CONT_PTE bit must now be unset ("unfolded"). One of the
>>>> requirements for folding a contpte block is that all the pages must belong to
>>>> the *same* folio (that means its safe to only track access/dirty for thecontpte
>>>> block as a whole rather than for each individual pte).
>>>>
>>>> (there are a couple of optimizations that make the reality slightly more
>>>> complicated than what I've just explained, but you get the idea).
>>>>
>>>> On that basis, I believe all the specific cases you describe below are all
>>>> covered and safe - please let me know if you think there is a hole here!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. madvise(MADV_DONTNEED) on a part of basepages on a CONTPTE large folio
>>>>
>>>> The page will first be unmapped (e.g. ptep_clear() or ptep_get_and_clear(), or
>>>> whatever). The implementation of that will cause an unfold and the CONT_PTE bit
>>>> is removed from the whole contpte block. If there is then a subsequent
>>>> set_pte_at() to set a swap entry, the implementation will see that its not
>>>> appropriate to re-fold, so the range will remain unfolded.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. vma split in a large folio due to various reasons such as mprotect,
>>>>> munmap, mlock etc.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure if PTEs are explicitly unmapped/remapped when splitting a VMA? I
>>>> suspect not, so if the VMA is split in the middle of a currently folded contpte
>>>> block, it will remain folded. But this is safe and continues to work correctly.
>>>> The VMA arrangement is not important; it is just important that a single folio
>>>> is mapped contiguously across the whole block.
>>>
>>> I don't think it is safe to keep CONTPTE folded in a split_vma case. as
>>> otherwise, copy_ptes in your other patch might only copy a part
>>> of CONTPES.
>>> For example,  if page0-page4 and page5-page15 are splitted in split_vma,
>>> in fork, while copying pte for the first VMA, we are copying page0-page4,
>>> this will immediately cause inconsistent CONTPTE. as we have to
>>> make sure all CONTPTEs are atomically mapped in a PTL.
>>
>> No that's not how it works. The CONT_PTE bit is not blindly copied from parent
>> to child. It is explicitly managed by the arch code and set when appropriate. In
>> the case above, we will end up calling set_ptes() for page0-page4 in the child.
>> set_ptes() will notice that there are only 5 contiguous pages so it will map
>> without the CONT_PTE bit.
> 
> Ok. cool. alternatively, in the code I shared to you, we are doing an unfold
> immediately when split_vma happens within a large anon folio, so we disallow
> CONTPTE to cross two VMAs to avoid all kinds of complexity afterwards.
> 
> https://github.com/OnePlusOSS/android_kernel_oneplus_sm8550/blob/oneplus/sm8550_u_14.0.0_oneplus11/mm/huge_memory.c
> 
> #ifdef CONFIG_CONT_PTE_HUGEPAGE
> void vma_adjust_cont_pte_trans_huge(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>     unsigned long start,
>     unsigned long end,
>     long adjust_next)
> {
>          /*
>          * If the new start address isn't hpage aligned and it could
>          * previously contain an hugepage: check if we need to split
>          * an huge pmd.
>          */
>          if (start & ~HPAGE_CONT_PTE_MASK &&
>              (start & HPAGE_CONT_PTE_MASK) >= vma->vm_start &&
>              (start & HPAGE_CONT_PTE_MASK) + HPAGE_CONT_PTE_SIZE <= vma->vm_end)
>                   split_huge_cont_pte_address(vma, start, false, NULL);
> 
>          ....
> }
> #endif
> 
> In your approach, you are still holding CONTPTE crossing two VMAs. but it seems
> ok. I can't have a case which might fail in my brain right now. only

Yes, I'm dealing with the CONT_PTE bit at the pgtable level, not at the VMA level.


> running the code on
> a large amount of real hardware will tell :-)

Indeed - is this something you might be able to help with? :)

> 
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. try_to_unmap_one() to reclaim a folio, ptes are scanned one by one
>>>>> rather than being as a whole.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, as per 1; the arm64 implementation will notice when the first entry is
>>>> cleared and unfold the contpte block.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In hardware, we need to make sure CONTPTE follow the rule - always 16
>>>>> contiguous physical address with CONTPTE set. if one of them run away
>>>>> from the 16 ptes group and PTEs become unconsistent, some terrible
>>>>> errors/faults can happen in HW. for example
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the implementation obeys all these rules; see contpte_try_fold() and
>>>> contpte_try_unfold(). the fold/unfold operation is only done when all
>>>> requirements are met, and we perform it in a manner that is conformant to the
>>>> architecture requirements (see contpte_fold() - being renamed to
>>>> contpte_convert() in the next version).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the review!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ryan
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> case0:
>>>>> addr0 PTE - has no CONTPE
>>>>> addr0+4kb PTE - has CONTPTE
>>>>> ....
>>>>> addr0+60kb PTE - has CONTPTE
>>>>>
>>>>> case 1:
>>>>> addr0 PTE - has no CONTPE
>>>>> addr0+4kb PTE - has CONTPTE
>>>>> ....
>>>>> addr0+60kb PTE - has swap
>>>>>
>>>>> Unconsistent 16 PTEs will lead to crash even in the firmware based on
>>>>> our observation.
>>>>>
>>>
> 
> Thanks
> Barry



  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-28 11:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-15 16:30 Ryan Roberts
2023-11-15 16:30 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] mm: Batch-copy PTE ranges during fork() Ryan Roberts
2023-11-15 21:26   ` kernel test robot
2023-11-16 10:07     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-16 10:12       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-16 10:36         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-16 11:01           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-16 11:13             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-15 21:37   ` Andrew Morton
2023-11-16  9:34     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-04 11:01     ` Christophe Leroy
2023-11-15 22:40   ` kernel test robot
2023-11-16 10:03   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-16 10:26     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27  8:42     ` Barry Song
2023-11-27  9:35       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27  9:59         ` Barry Song
2023-11-27 10:10           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27 10:28             ` Barry Song
2023-11-27 11:07               ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27 20:34                 ` Barry Song
2023-11-28  9:14                   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-28  9:49                     ` Barry Song
2023-11-28 10:49                       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-28 21:06                         ` Barry Song
2023-11-29 12:21                           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-30  0:51                             ` Barry Song
2023-11-16 11:03   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-16 11:20     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-16 13:20       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-16 13:49         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-16 14:13           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-16 14:15             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-16 17:58               ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-23 10:26               ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-23 12:12                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-23 12:28                   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-24  8:53                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-23  4:26   ` Alistair Popple
2023-11-23 14:43     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-23 23:50       ` Alistair Popple
2023-11-27  5:54   ` Barry Song
2023-11-27  9:24     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-28  0:11       ` Barry Song
2023-11-28 11:00         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-28 19:00           ` Barry Song
2023-11-29 12:29             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-29 13:09               ` Barry Song
2023-11-29 14:07                 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-30  0:34                   ` Barry Song
2023-11-15 16:30 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] arm64/mm: set_pte(): New layer to manage contig bit Ryan Roberts
2023-11-15 16:30 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] arm64/mm: set_ptes()/set_pte_at(): " Ryan Roberts
2023-11-15 16:30 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] arm64/mm: pte_clear(): " Ryan Roberts
2023-11-15 16:30 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] arm64/mm: ptep_get_and_clear(): " Ryan Roberts
2023-11-15 16:30 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] arm64/mm: ptep_test_and_clear_young(): " Ryan Roberts
2023-11-15 16:30 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] arm64/mm: ptep_clear_flush_young(): " Ryan Roberts
2023-11-15 16:30 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] arm64/mm: ptep_set_wrprotect(): " Ryan Roberts
2023-11-15 16:30 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] arm64/mm: ptep_set_access_flags(): " Ryan Roberts
2023-11-15 16:30 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] arm64/mm: ptep_get(): " Ryan Roberts
2023-11-15 16:30 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] arm64/mm: Split __flush_tlb_range() to elide trailing DSB Ryan Roberts
2023-11-15 16:30 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] arm64/mm: Wire up PTE_CONT for user mappings Ryan Roberts
2023-11-21 11:22   ` Alistair Popple
2023-11-21 15:14     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-22  6:01       ` Alistair Popple
2023-11-22  8:35         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-15 16:30 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] arm64/mm: Implement ptep_set_wrprotects() to optimize fork() Ryan Roberts
2023-11-15 16:30 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] arm64/mm: Add ptep_get_and_clear_full() to optimize process teardown Ryan Roberts
2023-11-23  5:13   ` Alistair Popple
2023-11-23 16:01     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-24  1:35       ` Alistair Popple
2023-11-24  8:54         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27  7:34           ` Alistair Popple
2023-11-27  8:53             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-28  6:54               ` Alistair Popple
2023-11-28 12:45                 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-28 16:55                   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-30  5:07                     ` Alistair Popple
2023-11-30  5:57                       ` Barry Song
2023-11-30 11:47                       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-03 23:20                         ` Alistair Popple
2023-12-04  9:39                           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-28  7:32   ` Barry Song
2023-11-28 11:15     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-28  8:17   ` Barry Song
2023-11-28 11:49     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-28 20:23       ` Barry Song
2023-11-29 12:43         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-29 13:00           ` Barry Song
2023-11-30  5:35           ` Barry Song
2023-11-30 12:00             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-03 21:41               ` Barry Song
2023-11-27  3:18 ` [PATCH v2 00/14] Transparent Contiguous PTEs for User Mappings Barry Song
2023-11-27  9:15   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27 10:35     ` Barry Song
2023-11-27 11:11       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27 22:53         ` Barry Song
2023-11-28 11:52           ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2023-11-28  3:13     ` Yang Shi
2023-11-28 11:58       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-28  5:49     ` Barry Song
2023-11-28 12:08       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-28 19:37         ` Barry Song

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