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From: Lucas Stach <l.stach@pengutronix.de>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Michal Nazarewicz <mina86@mina86.com>,
	"Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2@gentoo.org>,
	kernel@pengutronix.de, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	patchwork-lst@pengutronix.de,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: alloc_contig: demote PFN busy message to debug level
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 11:57:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1480676263.17003.55.camel@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161202104851.GH6830@dhcp22.suse.cz>

Am Freitag, den 02.12.2016, 11:48 +0100 schrieb Michal Hocko:
> On Fri 02-12-16 11:41:11, Lucas Stach wrote:
> > Am Freitag, den 02.12.2016, 11:18 +0100 schrieb Vlastimil Babka:
> > > On 12/02/2016 10:57 AM, Lucas Stach wrote:
> > > > There are a lot of reasons why a PFN might be busy and unable to be isolated
> > > > some of which can't really be avoided. This message is spamming the logs when
> > > > a lot of CMA allocations are happening, causing isolation to happen quite
> > > > frequently.
> > > 
> > > Is this related to Robin's report [1] or you have an independent case of 
> > > lots of CMA allocations, and in which context are there?
> > > 
> > No, I've seen this bug report, but this patch was sitting to be sent out
> > for a while now.
> > 
> > > > Demote the message to log level, as CMA will just retry the allocation, so
> > > > there is no need to have this message in the logs. If someone is interested
> > > > in the failing case, there is a tracepoint to track those failures properly.
> > > 
> > > I don't think we should just hide the issue like this, as getting high 
> > > volume reports from this is also very likely associated with high 
> > > overhead for the allocations. If it's the generic dma-cma context, like 
> > > in [1] where it attempts CMA for order-0 allocations, we should first do 
> > > something about that, before tweaking the logging.
> > > 
> > Etnaviv (the driver I maintain) currently does a stupid thing by
> > allocating and freeing lots of DMA buffers (higher-order) from different
> > threads. This is causing overhead at the CMA side, but really isn't
> > something to be handled at the CMA side, but rather Etnaviv must get
> > more clever about its CMA usage.
> > 
> > Still this message is really disturbing as page isolation failures can
> > be caused by lots of other reasons like temporarily pinned pages.
> 
> Hmm, then I think that what Robin has proposed [1] should be a generally
> better solution because it both ratelimits and points to the user who is
> triggering this path. 

Dumping a stacktrace at this point is only going to increase the noise
from this message, as it can be trigger under normal operating
conditions of CMA. If someone temporarily locked a previously movable
page with GUP or something alike, the stacktrace will point to the
victim rather than the offender, so I think the value of the stackstrace
is rather limited.

Regards,
Lucas

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-02 10:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-02  9:57 Lucas Stach
2016-12-02 10:18 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-12-02 10:41   ` Lucas Stach
2016-12-02 10:48     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-02 10:57       ` Lucas Stach [this message]
2016-12-02 12:32         ` Michal Nazarewicz

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