From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Cc: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>,
Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>
Subject: Re: Is it OK to pass non-acquired objects to kfree?
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 06:37:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1441892259.4619.53.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACT4Y+YEEZAOMFojv91T5M34ZHBfDBRxGjn6KtP6cyz+ivt=vw@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, 2015-09-10 at 14:08 +0200, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Jesper Dangaard Brouer
> > This reminds me of some code in the network stack[1] in kfree_skb()
> > where we have a smp_rmb(). Should we have used smp_load_acquire() ?
> >
> > void kfree_skb(struct sk_buff *skb)
> > {
> > if (unlikely(!skb))
> > return;
> > if (likely(atomic_read(&skb->users) == 1))
> > smp_rmb();
> > else if (likely(!atomic_dec_and_test(&skb->users)))
> > return;
> > trace_kfree_skb(skb, __builtin_return_address(0));
> > __kfree_skb(skb);
> > }
> > EXPORT_SYMBOL(kfree_skb);
>
> rmb is much better than nothing :)
> I generally prefer to use smp_load_acquire just because it's more
> explicit (you see what memory access the barrier relates to), fewer
> lines of code, agrees with modern atomic APIs in C, C++, Java, etc,
> and FWIW is much better for dynamic race detectors.
> As for semantic difference between rmb and smp_load_acquire, rmb does
> not order stores, so stores from __kfree_skb can hoist above the
> atomic_read(&skb->users) == 1 check. The only architecture that can do
> that is Alpha, I don't know enough about Alpha and barrier
> implementation on Alpha (maybe rmb and smp_load_acquire do the same
> hardware barrier on Alpha) to say whether it can break in real life or
> not. But I would still consider smp_load_acquire as safer and cleaner
> alternative.
smp_load_acquire() is a kid compared to kfree_skb() code written decades
ago.
Sure, new code has plenty of ways to implement all this stuff, and now
we can discuss days about choosing right variant in a single spot.
In the old days, Alexei was writing thousand of lines of code per day,
and he got it mostly right, even for the Alpha ;)
Another discussion is whether or not reading the value before attempting
the lock atomic dec is a win on modern cpus, because it might incur an
additional bus transaction in the case skbs are allocated/freed on
different cpus. I believe I made tests ~4 years ago and it was worth
keeping it.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-09-10 13:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-08 7:51 Dmitry Vyukov
2015-09-08 14:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-09-08 14:41 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-09-08 15:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-09-08 15:23 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-09-08 15:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-09-08 15:37 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-09-08 17:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-09-08 19:24 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-09-09 14:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-09-09 14:19 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-09-09 14:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-09-09 15:30 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-09-09 15:44 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-09-09 16:09 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-09-09 17:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-09-09 18:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-09 19:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-09-09 20:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-09 23:23 ` Store Buffers (was Re: Is it OK to pass non-acquired objects to kfree?) Christoph Lameter
2015-09-10 0:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-10 0:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-09-10 1:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-10 1:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-09-10 7:38 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-09-10 16:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-09-10 7:22 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-09-10 16:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-09-09 23:31 ` Is it OK to pass non-acquired objects to kfree? Christoph Lameter
2015-09-10 9:55 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-09-10 10:42 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2015-09-10 12:08 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-09-10 13:37 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2015-09-10 12:47 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-09-10 13:17 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-09-10 17:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-10 17:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-10 17:26 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-09-10 17:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-10 18:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-09-10 18:11 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-09-10 18:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-09-10 18:26 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-09-10 18:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-10 22:00 ` Christoph Lameter
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