From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Manfred Spraul <manfreds@colorfullife.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Stephen Tweedie <sct@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: locking question: do_mmap(), do_munmap()
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:09:01 +0100 (BST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <14337.64909.191024.839302@dukat.scot.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <38008F28.76CD7B4D@colorfullife.com>
Hi,
On Sun, 10 Oct 1999 15:05:44 +0200, Manfred Spraul <manfreds@colorfullife.com> said:
> Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
>> Look the swapout path. Without the big kernel lock you'll free vmas under
>> swap_out().
> I checked to code in mm/*.c, and it seems that reading the vma-list is
> protected by either lock_kernel() [eg: swapper] or down(&mm->mmap_sem)
> [eg: do_mlock].
The swapper relies on it being protected by the big lock. The mm
semaphore is required when you need additional protection: specifically,
if you need to sleep while manipulating the vma lists (eg. in page
faults).
> But this means that both locks are required if you modify the vma list.
> Single reader, multiple writer synchronization. Unusual, but interesting
> :-)
Correct, but you only need the one lock --- the big lock --- to read the
vma list, which is what the swapper does. The swapper only needs write
access to the page tables, not to the vma list.
> How should we fix it?
> a) the swapper calls down(&mm->mmap_sem), but I guess that would
> lock-up.
Massive deadlock, indeed. We've looked at this but it is soooo painful.
> b) everyone who changes the vma list calls lock_kernel().
... or an equivalent lock. The big lock itself isn't needed if we have
a per-mm spinlock, but we do need something lighter weight than the mmap
semaphore to let the swapper read-protect the vma lists.
--Stephen
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~1999-10-11 15:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-10-09 12:48 Manfred Spraul
1999-10-09 13:12 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-09 13:17 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-09 13:38 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-09 16:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-10-10 13:05 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-11 15:09 ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
1999-10-11 15:05 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.10.9910101713010.364-100000@alpha.random>
1999-10-10 15:52 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-10 16:07 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-10 16:25 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-10 16:45 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-10 17:25 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-10 17:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-10-10 17:48 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-10 18:42 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-10 19:03 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-10 21:31 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-10 21:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-10-10 22:34 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-10 23:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-10-11 15:50 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 16:05 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-11 18:02 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-11 19:07 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-10-11 22:23 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-13 1:25 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-10-13 7:32 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-15 9:58 ` Ralf Baechle
1999-10-15 17:50 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-10-13 10:45 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 20:15 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 21:14 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-11 21:37 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-11 22:13 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-11 22:22 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 23:01 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-13 10:16 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 20:13 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 21:40 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-11 22:20 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 22:31 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-13 10:25 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 15:47 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 15:43 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-10 16:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-10-11 15:41 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 15:52 ` Alexander Viro
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