From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Chuck Lever <cel@monkey.org>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
"Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
Kanoj Sarcar <kanoj@google.engr.sgi.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:58:46 +0100 (BST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <14200.46326.332605.961051@dukat.scot.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSO.4.10.9906282106580.10964-100000@funky.monkey.org>
Hi,
On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:29:07 -0400 (EDT), Chuck Lever <cel@monkey.org>
said:
> yes, that's exactly what i did. what i can't figure out is why do the
> shrink_mmap in both places? seems like the shrink_mmap in kswapd is
> overkill if it has just been awoken by try_to_free_pages.
It hasn't necessarily. It may have been woken by networking activity.
If the memory requirements are being driven by interrupts, not
processes, then kswapd is the only chance for shrink_mmap to be called.
> stephen also mentioned "rate controlling" a trashing process, but since
> nothing in swap_out spins or sleeps, how could a process be slowed except
> by a little extra CPU time spent behind the global lock? that will slow
> everyone else down too, yes?
There are IO queue limits which will eventually stall the process. The
ll_rw_block itself one rate limiter. We also have a test in
rw_swap_page_base:
/* Don't allow too many pending pages in flight.. */
if (atomic_read(&nr_async_pages) > pager_daemon.swap_cluster)
wait = 1;
which causes the swapout to become synchronous once we have filled the
swapper queues.
> seems like try_to_free_pages ought to make a clear effort to recognize a
> process that is growing quickly and slow it down by causing it to sleep.
It does.
--Stephen
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~1999-06-29 11:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-06-21 5:29 filecache/swapcache questions Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-21 11:25 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-21 16:46 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-21 16:57 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-21 17:36 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-21 17:49 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-21 18:46 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-21 23:44 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-24 22:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-24 23:55 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-25 0:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-28 1:48 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 10:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-28 17:11 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 16:32 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 17:25 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 20:40 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 21:11 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 22:12 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 23:43 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-29 11:44 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 22:01 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-30 17:28 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-30 18:05 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 19:39 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 19:55 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 20:33 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 20:51 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 21:32 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 21:38 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 21:50 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 22:15 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-29 11:23 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 17:36 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 22:22 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:21 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-29 2:13 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-29 12:01 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 12:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-30 15:59 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 1:00 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 22:08 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-29 0:53 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-29 11:14 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:09 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 20:45 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 21:14 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 21:25 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 22:15 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-29 1:29 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-29 11:58 ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
1999-06-29 12:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-29 15:27 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-29 11:55 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 20:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-28 22:36 ` filecache/swapcache questions Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 23:24 ` Kanoj Sarcar
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