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From: Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>
To: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
Cc: Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr.bueso@hp.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	gthelen@google.com, aswin@hp.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] ipc/shm.c: increase the limits for SHMMAX, SHMALL
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 10:25:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1398101106.2623.6.camel@buesod1.americas.hpqcorp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1398090397-2397-1-git-send-email-manfred@colorfullife.com>

On Mon, 2014-04-21 at 16:26 +0200, Manfred Spraul wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> the increase of SHMMAX/SHMALL is now a 4 patch series.
> I don't have ideas how to improve it further.

Manfred, is there any difference between this set and the one you sent a
couple of days ago?

> 
> The change itself is trivial, the only problem are interger overflows.
> The overflows are not new, but if we make huge values the default,
> then the code should be free from overflows.
> 
> SHMMAX:
> 
> - shmmem_file_setup places a hard limit on the segment size:
>   MAX_LFS_FILESIZE.
> 
>   On 32-bit, the limit is > 1 TB, i.e. 4 GB-1 byte segments are
>   possible. Rounded up to full pages the actual allocated size
>   is 0. --> must be fixed, patch 3
> 
> - shmat:
>   - find_vma_intersection does not handle overflows properly.
>     --> must be fixed, patch 1
> 
>   - the rest is fine, do_mmap_pgoff limits mappings to TASK_SIZE
>     and checks for overflows (i.e.: map 2 GB, starting from
>     addr=2.5GB fails).
> 
> SHMALL:
> - after creating 8192 segments size (1L<<63)-1, shm_tot overflows and
>   returns 0.  --> must be fixed, patch 2.
> 
> User space:
> - Obviuosly, there could be overflows in user space. There is nothing
>   we can do, only use values smaller than ULONG_MAX.
>   I ended with "ULONG_MAX - 1L<<24":
> 
>   - TASK_SIZE cannot be used because it is the size of the current
>     task. Could be 4G if it's a 32-bit task on a 64-bit kernel.
> 
>   - The maximum size is not standardized across archs:
>     I found TASK_MAX_SIZE, TASK_SIZE_MAX and TASK_SIZE_64.
> 
>   - Just in case some arch revives a 4G/4G split, nearly
>     ULONG_MAX is a valid segment size.
> 
>   - Using "0" as a magic value for infinity is even worse, because
>     right now 0 means 0, i.e. fail all allocations.

Sorry but I don't quite get this. Using 0 eliminates the need for all
these patches, no? I mean overflows have existed since forever, and
taking this route would naturally solve the problem. 0 allocations are a
no no anyways.

I do agree with the series iff we endup taking this 'increase the limit
size approach'. But I just don't see the need.

Thanks,
Davidlohr

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-21 17:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-21 14:26 Manfred Spraul
2014-04-21 14:26 ` [PATCH 1/4] ipc/shm.c: check for ulong overflows in shmat Manfred Spraul
2014-04-21 14:26   ` [PATCH 2/4] ipc/shm.c: check for overflows of shm_tot Manfred Spraul
2014-04-21 14:26     ` [PATCH 3/4] ipc/shm.c: check for integer overflow during shmget Manfred Spraul
2014-04-21 14:26       ` [PATCH 4/4] ipc/shm.c: Increase the defaults for SHMALL, SHMMAX Manfred Spraul
2014-04-22 18:21         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-22 18:28         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-22 20:17         ` Motohiro Kosaki
2014-04-23  5:01         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-22 18:19       ` [PATCH 3/4] ipc/shm.c: check for integer overflow during shmget Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-22 20:16         ` Motohiro Kosaki
2014-04-23  4:59       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-22 18:18     ` [PATCH 2/4] ipc/shm.c: check for overflows of shm_tot Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-22 20:16       ` Motohiro Kosaki
2014-04-23  4:58     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-22 18:18   ` [PATCH 1/4] ipc/shm.c: check for ulong overflows in shmat Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-22 20:15     ` Motohiro Kosaki
2014-04-23  4:58   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 17:25 ` Davidlohr Bueso [this message]
2014-04-22  4:23   ` [PATCH 0/4] ipc/shm.c: increase the limits for SHMMAX, SHMALL Manfred Spraul
2014-04-22 18:18     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-23  2:53 ` [PATCH 5/4] ipc,shm: minor cleanups Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-23  5:07   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-23  5:25     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-23  5:28       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-23 22:27       ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-23 22:35         ` Stephen Rothwell
2014-04-24  5:18       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-24 17:21         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-23 18:18   ` Manfred Spraul
2014-05-02 13:16 ` [PATCH 0/4] ipc/shm.c: increase the limits for SHMMAX, SHMALL Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-06 20:06   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-05-06 20:40     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-06 22:08       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-05-07  5:27         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-07 18:22           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-05-07 19:17             ` [PATCH v2] ipc,shm: document new limits in the uapi header Davidlohr Bueso
2014-05-09  8:44               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-11 20:46                 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-05-12  7:44                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-13  1:35                     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-05-13  6:06                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-06 20:43     ` [PATCH 0/4] ipc/shm.c: increase the limits for SHMMAX, SHMALL Davidlohr Bueso
2014-06-03 19:26   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-09-23  5:24     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-24  8:02       ` Davidlohr Bueso
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2014-04-19 11:43 Manfred Spraul

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