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From: Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	mtosatti@redhat.com, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com, yinghai@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] hugetlb: add hugepages_node= command-line option
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:47:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1392702456.2468.4.camel@buesod1.americas.hpqcorp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1402150159540.28883@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 02:06 -0800, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> 
> > > Again, I think this syntax is horrendous and doesn't couple well with the 
> > > other hugepage-related kernel command line options.  We already have 
> > > hugepages= and hugepagesz= which you can interleave on the command line to 
> > > get 100 2M hugepages and 10 1GB hugepages, for example.
> > > 
> > > This patchset is simply introducing another variable to the matter: the 
> > > node that the hugepages should be allocated on.  So just introduce a 
> > > hugepagesnode= parameter to couple with the others so you can do
> > > 
> > > 	hugepagesz=<size> hugepagesnode=<nid> hugepages=<#>
> > 
> > That was my first try but it turned out really bad. First, for every node
> > you specify you need three options.
> 
> Just like you need two options today to specify a number of hugepages of a 
> particular non-default size.  You only need to use hugepagesz= or 
> hugepagenode= if you want a non-default size or a specify a particular 
> node.
> 
> > So, if you want to setup memory for
> > three nodes you'll need to specify nine options.
> 
> And you currently need six if you want to specify three different hugepage 
> sizes (?).  But who really specifies three different hugepage sizes on the 
> command line that are needed to be reserved at boot?
> 
> If that's really the usecase, it seems like you want the old 
> CONFIG_PAGE_SHIFT patch.
> 
> > And it gets worse, because
> > hugepagesz= and hugepages= have strict ordering (which is a mistake, IMHO) so
> > you have to specify them in the right order otherwise things don't work as
> > expected and you have no idea why (have been there myself).
> > 
> 
> How is that difficult?  hugepages= is the "noun", hugepagesz= is the 
> "adjective".  hugepages=100 hugepagesz=1G hugepages=4 makes perfect sense 
> to me, and I actually don't allocate hugepages on the command line, nor 
> have I looked at Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt to check if I'm 
> constructing it correctly.  It just makes sense and once you learn it it's 
> just natural.

This can get annoying _really_ fast for larger systems.

> > IMO, hugepages_node=<nid>:<nr_pages>:<size>,... is good enough. It's concise,
> > and don't depend on any other option to function. Also, there are lots of other
> > kernel command-line options that require you to specify multiple fields, so
> > it's not like hugepages_node= is totally different in that regard.
> > 

Agreed.

> 
> I doubt Andrew is going to want a completely different format for hugepage 
> allocations that want to specify a node and have to deal with people who 
> say hugepages_node=2:1:1G and constantly have to lookup if it's 2 
> hugepages on node 1 or 1 hugepage on node 2.

I guess most users won't even be aware of this new parameter and those
who really care will have the choice.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-02-18  5:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-14  1:02 [PATCH v2 0/4] " Luiz Capitulino
2014-02-14  1:02 ` [PATCH 1/4] memblock: memblock_virt_alloc_internal(): add __GFP_THISNODE flag support Luiz Capitulino
2014-02-14  1:02 ` [PATCH 2/4] memblock: add memblock_virt_alloc_nid_nopanic() Luiz Capitulino
2014-02-14  1:02 ` [PATCH 3/4] hugetlb: add parse_pagesize_str() Luiz Capitulino
2014-02-14  1:02 ` [PATCH 4/4] hugetlb: add hugepages_node= command-line option Luiz Capitulino
2014-02-14 23:14   ` David Rientjes
2014-02-15  3:58     ` Luiz Capitulino
2014-02-15 10:06       ` David Rientjes
2014-02-17 13:56         ` Luiz Capitulino
2014-02-17 23:23           ` David Rientjes
2014-02-18 12:30             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-02-18 22:16               ` David Rientjes
2014-02-20  2:22                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-02-20  3:46                   ` David Rientjes
2014-02-20  4:42                     ` Luiz Capitulino
2014-02-20  4:51                       ` David Rientjes
2014-02-20 15:06                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2014-02-20 21:34                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-02-20 23:15                       ` David Rientjes
2014-02-21  2:28                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-02-21 10:07                           ` David Rientjes
2014-02-21 19:10                             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-02-21 22:04                               ` David Rientjes
2014-02-21 22:36                                 ` Andi Kleen
2014-02-21 22:44                                   ` David Rientjes
2014-02-21 22:55                                     ` Andi Kleen
2014-02-21  3:35                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2014-02-20 21:38                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-02-20 23:17                       ` David Rientjes
2014-02-18  5:47         ` Davidlohr Bueso [this message]
2014-02-21 23:54           ` Andrew Morton
2014-02-22  4:03             ` Andi Kleen
2014-02-22  4:31               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-02-22  4:40               ` Andrew Morton

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