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From: Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Guan Xuetao <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>,
	"Chandramouleeswaran, Aswin" <aswin@hp.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: cache largest vma
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 20:12:09 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1384143129.6940.32.camel@buesod1.americas.hpqcorp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131104073640.GF13030@gmail.com>

Hi Ingo,

On Mon, 2013-11-04 at 08:36 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com> wrote:
> 
> > I will look into doing the vma cache per thread instead of mm (I hadn't 
> > really looked at the problem like this) as well as Ingo's suggestion on 
> > the weighted LRU approach. However, having seen that we can cheaply and 
> > easily reach around ~70% hit rate in a lot of workloads, makes me wonder 
> > how good is good enough?
> 
> So I think it all really depends on the hit/miss cost difference. It makes 
> little sense to add a more complex scheme if it washes out most of the 
> benefits!
> 
> Also note the historic context: the _original_ mmap_cache, that I 
> implemented 16 years ago, was a front-line cache to a linear list walk 
> over all vmas (!).
> 
> This is the relevant 2.1.37pre1 code in include/linux/mm.h:
> 
> /* Look up the first VMA which satisfies  addr < vm_end,  NULL if none. */
> static inline struct vm_area_struct * find_vma(struct mm_struct * mm, unsigned long addr)
> {
>         struct vm_area_struct *vma = NULL;
> 
>         if (mm) {
>                 /* Check the cache first. */
>                 vma = mm->mmap_cache;
>                 if(!vma || (vma->vm_end <= addr) || (vma->vm_start > addr)) {
>                         vma = mm->mmap;
>                         while(vma && vma->vm_end <= addr)
>                                 vma = vma->vm_next;
>                         mm->mmap_cache = vma;
>                 }
>         }
>         return vma;
> }
> 
> See that vma->vm_next iteration? It was awful - but back then most of us 
> had at most a couple of megs of RAM with just a few vmas. No RAM, no SMP, 
> no worries - the mm was really simple back then.
> 
> Today we have the vma rbtree, which is self-balancing and a lot faster 
> than your typical linear list walk search ;-)
> 
> So I'd _really_ suggest to first examine the assumptions behind the cache, 
> it being named 'cache' and it having a hit rate does in itself not 
> guarantee that it gives us any worthwile cost savings when put in front of 
> an rbtree ...

So having mmap_cache around, in whatever form, is an important
optimization for find_vma() - even to this day. It can save us at least
50% cycles that correspond to this function. I ran a variety of
mmap_cache alternatives over two workloads that are heavy on page faults
(as opposed to Java based ones I had tried previously, which really
don't trigger enough for it to be worthwhile).  So we now have a
comparison of 5 different caching schemes -- note that the 4 element
hash table is quite similar to two elements, with a hash function of
(addr % hash_size).

1) Kernel build
+------------------------+----------+------------------+---------+
|    mmap_cache type     | hit-rate | cycles (billion) | stddev  |
+------------------------+----------+------------------+---------+
| no mmap_cache          | -        | 15.85            | 0.10066 |
| current mmap_cache     | 72.32%   | 11.03            | 0.01155 |
| mmap_cache+largest VMA | 84.55%   |  9.91            | 0.01414 |
| 4 element hash table   | 78.38%   | 10.52            | 0.01155 |
| per-thread mmap_cache  | 78.84%   | 10.69            | 0.01325 |
+------------------------+----------+------------------+---------+

In this particular workload the proposed patch benefits the most and
current alternatives, while they do help some, aren't really worth
bothering with as the current implementation already does a nice enough
job.

2) Oracle Data mining (4K pages)
+------------------------+----------+------------------+---------+
|    mmap_cache type     | hit-rate | cycles (billion) | stddev  |
+------------------------+----------+------------------+---------+
| no mmap_cache          | -        | 63.35            | 0.20207 |
| current mmap_cache     | 65.66%   | 19.55            | 0.35019 |
| mmap_cache+largest VMA | 71.53%   | 15.84            | 0.26764 |
| 4 element hash table   | 70.75%   | 15.90            | 0.25586 |
| per-thread mmap_cache  | 86.42%   | 11.57            | 0.29462 |
+------------------------+----------+------------------+---------+

This workload sure makes the point of how much we can benefit of caching
the vma, otherwise find_vma() can cost more than 220% extra cycles. We
clearly win here by having a per-thread cache instead of per address
space. I also tried the same workload with 2Mb hugepages and the results
are much more closer to the kernel build, but with the per-thread vma
still winning over the rest of the alternatives.

All in all I think that we should probably have a per-thread vma cache.
Please let me know if there is some other workload you'd like me to try
out. If folks agree then I can cleanup the patch and send it out.

Thanks,
Davidlohr

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-11-11  4:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-01 20:17 Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-01 20:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-11-01 21:11   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-03  9:46     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-03 23:57     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-11-04  4:22       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-01 21:23 ` Rik van Riel
2013-11-03 10:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04  4:20   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-04  4:48     ` converting unicore32 to gate_vma as done for arm (was Re: [PATCH] mm: cache largest vma) Al Viro
2013-11-05  2:49       ` 管雪涛
2013-11-11  7:25         ` converting unicore32 to gate_vma as done for arm (was " Al Viro
2013-11-04  7:00     ` [PATCH] mm: cache largest vma Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04  7:05     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 14:20       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-04 17:52         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 18:10           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-05  8:24             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-05 14:27               ` Jiri Olsa
2013-11-06  6:01                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-06 14:03                   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2013-11-03 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-04  4:04   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-04  7:36     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 14:56       ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-11-11  4:12       ` Davidlohr Bueso [this message]
2013-11-11  7:43         ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-11-11 12:04           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 20:47             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-13 17:08               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-13 17:59                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-13 18:16               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-11 12:01         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 18:24           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-11 20:47             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 20:59               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-11 21:09                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04  7:03   ` Christoph Hellwig

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