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From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>
To: Ray Bryant <raybry@mpdtxmail.amd.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Rohit Seth <rohit.seth@intel.com>,
	akpm@osdl.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH]: Clean up of __alloc_pages
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 09:10:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <138020000.1128442248@[10.10.2.4]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200510041126.53247.raybry@mpdtxmail.amd.com>


--Ray Bryant <raybry@mpdtxmail.amd.com> wrote (on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 11:26:52 -0500):

> On Tuesday 04 October 2005 08:27, Andi Kleen wrote:
>> Rohit Seth <rohit.seth@intel.com> writes:
>> > I think conceptually this ask for a new flag __GFP_NODEONLY that
>> > indicate allocations to come from current node only.
>> > 
>> > This definitely though means I will need to separate out the allocation
>> > from pcp patch (as Nick suggested earlier).
>> 
>> This reminds me - the current logic is currently a bit suboptimal on
>> many NUMA systems. Often it would be better to be a bit more
>> aggressive at freeing memory (maybe do a very low overhead light try to
>> free pages) in the first node before falling back to other nodes. What
>> right now happens is that when you have even minor memory pressure
>> because e.g. you node is filled up with disk cache the local memory
>> affinity doesn't work too well anymore.
>> 
>> -Andi
>> 
> That's exactly what Martin Hick's additions to __alloc_pages() were trying to 
> achieve.   However, we've never figured out how to make the "very low 
> overhead light try to free pages" thing work with low enough overhead that it 
> can be left on all of the time.    As soon as we make this the least bit more 
> expensive, then this hurts those workloads (file servers being one example) 
> who don't care about local, but who need the fastest possible allocations. 
> 
> This problem is often a showstopper on larger NUMA systems, at least for HPC 
> type applications, where the inability to guarantee local storage allocation 
> when it is requested can make the application run significantly slower.

Can we not do some migration / more targeted pressure balancing in kswapd?
Ie if we had a constant measure of per-node pressure, we could notice an
imbalance, and start migrating the least recently used pages from the node
under most pressure to the node under least ...

M.

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-04 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-01 19:00 Seth, Rohit
2005-10-02  3:09 ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-03 16:50   ` Rohit Seth
2005-10-03 15:34 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-10-03 16:55   ` Rohit Seth
2005-10-03 16:57     ` Christoph Lameter
2005-10-03 17:48       ` Rohit Seth
2005-10-04 13:27         ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-04 16:26           ` Ray Bryant
2005-10-04 16:10             ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2005-10-04 17:02               ` Ray Bryant
2005-10-29  1:33 Rohit, Seth
2005-10-29  2:33 ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-31 20:55   ` Rohit Seth
2005-11-01  1:14     ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-04 18:15       ` Rohit Seth
2005-11-05  0:00         ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  0:16 ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-31 19:09   ` Rohit Seth
2005-11-05 17:09   ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-06  4:18     ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-06 17:35       ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-06 20:49         ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-07  2:57           ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-07  3:42             ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-07  4:37               ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-07  6:08                 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-07  9:46                   ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-07 10:17                     ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-07 14:41                       ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-07  3:44             ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  1:47 ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  2:01   ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  2:19     ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  2:32       ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  3:06         ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  3:53           ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  2:26     ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  2:36       ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  3:09         ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  3:55           ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  4:11             ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-31 21:20   ` Rohit Seth
2005-10-31 21:28     ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-05  1:57 Seth, Rohit

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