From: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, "Shi, Alex" <alex.shi@intel.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr.bueso@hp.com>,
"Wilcox, Matthew R" <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: Performance regression from switching lock to rw-sem for anon-vma tree
Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:08:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1375740503.22432.429.camel@schen9-DESK> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130730192455.GA22259@gmail.com>
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 21:24 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
>
> > +config RWSEM_SPIN_ON_WRITE_OWNER
> > + bool "Optimistic spin write acquisition for writer owned rw-sem"
> > + default n
> > + depends on SMP
> > + help
> > + Allows a writer to perform optimistic spinning if another writer own
> > + the read write semaphore. If the lock owner is running, it is likely
> > + to release the lock soon. Spinning gives a greater chance for writer to
> > + acquire a semaphore before putting it to sleep.
>
> The way you've worded this new Kconfig option makes it
> sound as if it's not just for testing, and I'm not a big
> believer in extra Kconfig degrees of freedom for
> scalability features of core locking primitives like
> rwsems, in production kernels ...
>
> So the bad news is that such scalability optimizations
> really need to work for everyone.
>
> The good news is that I don't think there's anything
> particularly controversial about making the rwsem write
> side perform just as well as mutexes - it would in fact be
> a very nice quality of implementation feature: it gives
> people freedom to switch between mutexes and rwsems without
> having to worry about scalability differences too much.
>
Sorry for replying to your email late as I was pulled to
some other tasks.
Ingo, any objection if I make the optimistic writer spin the
default for SMP without an extra config? This will make
the rw_semaphore structure grow a bit to accommodate the
owner and spin_mlock field.
Thanks.
Tim
> Once readers are mixed into the workload can we keep the
> XFS assumptions, if they are broken in any way?
>
> We are spinning here so we have full awareness about the
> state of the lock and we can react to a new reader in very
> short order - so at a quick glance I don't see any
> fundamental difficulty in being able to resolve it - beyond
> the SMOP aspect that is ... :-)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ingo
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-05 22:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-13 23:26 Tim Chen
2013-06-19 13:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-19 16:53 ` Tim Chen
2013-06-26 0:19 ` Tim Chen
2013-06-26 9:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-26 21:36 ` Tim Chen
2013-06-27 0:25 ` Tim Chen
2013-06-27 8:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-27 20:53 ` Tim Chen
2013-06-27 23:31 ` Tim Chen
2013-06-28 9:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-28 21:04 ` Tim Chen
2013-06-29 7:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-01 20:28 ` Tim Chen
2013-07-02 6:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-16 17:53 ` Tim Chen
2013-07-23 9:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-23 9:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-23 9:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-30 0:13 ` Tim Chen
2013-07-30 19:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-08-05 22:08 ` Tim Chen [this message]
2013-07-30 19:59 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-07-30 20:34 ` Tim Chen
2013-07-30 21:45 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-08-06 23:55 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-08-07 0:56 ` Tim Chen
2013-08-12 18:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-08-12 20:10 ` Tim Chen
2013-06-28 9:20 ` Ingo Molnar
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[not found] ` <1371167015.1754.14.camel@buesod1.americas.hpqcorp.net>
2013-06-14 16:09 ` Tim Chen
2013-06-14 22:31 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-14 22:44 ` Tim Chen
2013-06-14 22:47 ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-06-17 22:27 ` Tim Chen
2013-06-16 9:50 ` Alex Shi
2013-06-17 16:22 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-17 18:45 ` Tim Chen
2013-06-17 19:05 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-17 22:28 ` Tim Chen
2013-06-17 23:18 ` Alex Shi
2013-06-17 23:20 ` Alex Shi
2013-06-17 23:35 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-18 0:08 ` Tim Chen
2013-06-19 23:11 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-19 23:24 ` Tim Chen
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