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From: Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>
To: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Hillf Danton <dhillf@gmail.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <liwanp@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Naoya Horiguchi <nao.horiguchi@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] prepare to remove /proc/sys/vm/hugepages_treat_as_movable
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 22:43:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1375411396-bw4cbhso-mutt-n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vc3qvtmc.fsf@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 11:29:39AM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:02:30AM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> >> Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com> writes:
> >> 
> >> > Now hugepages are definitely movable. So allocating hugepages from
> >> > ZONE_MOVABLE is natural and we have no reason to keep this parameter.
> >> > In order to allow userspace to prepare for the removal, let's leave
> >> > this sysctl handler as noop for a while.
> >> 
> >> I guess you still need to handle architectures for which pmd_huge is
> >> 
> >> int pmd_huge(pmd_t pmd)
> >> {
> >> 	return 0;
> >> }
> >> 
> >> embedded powerpc is one. They don't store pte information at the PMD
> >> level. Instead pmd contains a pointer to hugepage directory which
> >> contain huge pte.
> >
> > It seems that this comment is for the whole series, not just for this
> > patch, right?
> >
> > Some users of hugepage migration (mbind, move_pages, migrate_pages)
> > walk over page tables to collect hugepages to be migrated, where
> > hugepages are just ignored in such architectures due to pmd_huge.
> > So no problem for these users.
> >
> > But the other users (softoffline, memory hotremove) choose hugepages
> > to be migrated based on pfn, where they don't check pmd_huge.
> > As you wrote, this can be problematic for such architectures.
> > So I think of adding pmd_huge() check somewhere (in unmap_and_move_huge_page
> > for example) to make it fail for such architectures.
> 
> Considering that we have architectures that won't support migrating
> explicit hugepages with this patch series, is it ok to use
> GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE for hugepage allocation ?

Originally this parameter was introduced to make hugepage pool on ZONE_MOVABLE.
The benefit is that we can extend the hugepage pool more easily,
because external fragmentation less likely happens than other zone type
by rearranging fragmented pages with page migration/reclaim.

So I think using ZONE_MOVABLE for hugepage allocation by default makes sense
even on the architectures which don't support hugepage migration.

Thanks,
Naoya Horiguchi

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-02  2:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-25  4:54 [PATCH v4 0/8] extend hugepage migration Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-25  4:54 ` [PATCH 1/8] migrate: make core migration code aware of hugepage Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-25  6:06   ` Hillf Danton
2013-07-30 18:28   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-07-30 18:48     ` Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-25  4:54 ` [PATCH 2/8] soft-offline: use migrate_pages() instead of migrate_huge_page() Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-25  6:09   ` Hillf Danton
2013-07-25  4:54 ` [PATCH 3/8] migrate: add hugepage migration code to migrate_pages() Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-25  6:17   ` Hillf Danton
2013-07-25  4:54 ` [PATCH 4/8] migrate: add hugepage migration code to move_pages() Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-25  4:55 ` [PATCH 5/8] mbind: add hugepage migration code to mbind() Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-25  6:33   ` Hillf Danton
2013-07-25  4:55 ` [PATCH 6/8] migrate: remove VM_HUGETLB from vma flag check in vma_migratable() Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-25  4:55 ` [PATCH 7/8] memory-hotplug: enable memory hotplug to handle hugepage Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-25  4:55 ` [PATCH 8/8] prepare to remove /proc/sys/vm/hugepages_treat_as_movable Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-30 18:32   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-07-31 20:24     ` Naoya Horiguchi
2013-08-01  5:59       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-08-02  2:43         ` Naoya Horiguchi [this message]
2013-08-06  1:52           ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-08-06  4:30             ` Naoya Horiguchi
2013-08-05 20:27       ` [PATCH 9/8] hugetlb: add pmd_huge_support() to migrate only pmd-based hugepage Naoya Horiguchi
2013-08-06  1:56         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-08-06  4:48           ` Naoya Horiguchi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-07-18 21:34 [PATCH v3 0/8] extend hugepage migration Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-18 21:34 ` [PATCH 8/8] prepare to remove /proc/sys/vm/hugepages_treat_as_movable Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-24  3:46   ` Wanpeng Li
2013-07-24  3:46   ` Wanpeng Li

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