From: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
To: Vasilis Liaskovitis <vasilis.liaskovitis@profitbricks.com>
Cc: Tang Chen <tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com>,
tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@elte.hu, hpa@zytor.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, tj@kernel.org, trenn@suse.de,
yinghai@kernel.org, jiang.liu@huawei.com, wency@cn.fujitsu.com,
laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com,
mgorman@suse.de, minchan@kernel.org, mina86@mina86.com,
gong.chen@linux.intel.com, lwoodman@redhat.com, riel@redhat.com,
jweiner@redhat.com, prarit@redhat.com, x86@kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [Part3 PATCH v2 0/4] Support hot-remove local pagetable pages.
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:59:49 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1371599989.22206.6.camel@misato.fc.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130618170515.GC4553@dhcp-192-168-178-175.profitbricks.localdomain>
On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 19:05 +0200, Vasilis Liaskovitis wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 09:03:52PM +0800, Tang Chen wrote:
> > The following patch-set from Yinghai allocates pagetables to local nodes.
> > v1: https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/3/7/642
> > v2: https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/3/10/47
> > v3: https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/4/4/639
> > v4: https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/4/11/829
> >
> > Since pagetable pages are used by the kernel, they cannot be offlined.
> > As a result, they cannot be hot-remove.
> >
> > This patch fix this problem with the following solution:
> >
> > 1. Introduce a new bootmem type LOCAL_NODE_DATAL, and register local
> > pagetable pages as LOCAL_NODE_DATAL by setting page->lru.next to
> > LOCAL_NODE_DATAL, just like we register SECTION_INFO pages.
> >
> > 2. Skip LOCAL_NODE_DATAL pages in offline/online procedures. When the
> > whole memory block they reside in is offlined, the kernel can
> > still access the pagetables.
> > (This changes the semantics of offline/online a little bit.)
>
> This could be a design problem of part3: if we allow local pagetable memory
> to not be offlined but allow the offlining to return successfully, then
> hot-remove is going to succeed. But the direct mapped pagetable pages are still
> mapped in the kernel. The hot-removed memblocks will suddenly disappear (think
> physical DIMMs getting disabled in real hardware, or in a VM case the
> corresponding guest memory getting freed from the emulator e.g. qemu/kvm). The
> system can crash as a result.
>
> I think these local pagetables do need to be unmapped from kernel, offlined and
> removed somehow - otherwise hot-remove should fail. Could they be migrated
> alternatively e.g. to node 0 memory? But Iiuc direct mapped pages cannot be
> migrated, correct?
>
> What is the original reason for local node pagetable allocation with regards
> to memory hotplug? I assume we want to have hotplugged nodes use only their local
> memory, so that there are no inter-node memory dependencies for hot-add/remove.
> Are there other reasons that I am missing?
I second Vasilis. The part1/2/3 series could be much simpler & less
riskier if we focus on the SRAT changes first, and make the local node
pagetable changes as a separate item. Is there particular reason why
they have to be done at a same time?
Thanks,
-Toshi
--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-19 0:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-13 13:03 Tang Chen
2013-06-13 13:03 ` [Part3 PATCH v2 1/4] bootmem, mem-hotplug: Register local pagetable pages with LOCAL_NODE_DATA when freeing bootmem Tang Chen
2013-06-13 14:16 ` Michal Nazarewicz
2013-06-14 5:37 ` Tang Chen
2013-06-13 13:03 ` [Part3 PATCH v2 2/4] mem-hotplug: Skip LOCAL_NODE_DATA pages in memory offline procedure Tang Chen
2013-06-13 17:17 ` Dave Hansen
2013-06-14 5:45 ` Tang Chen
2013-06-13 13:03 ` [Part3 PATCH v2 3/4] mem-hotplug: Skip LOCAL_NODE_DATA pages in memory online procedure Tang Chen
2013-06-13 13:03 ` [Part3 PATCH v2 4/4] mem-hotplug: Do not free LOCAL_NODE_DATA pages to buddy system in hot-remove procedure Tang Chen
2013-06-17 1:58 ` [Part3 PATCH v2 0/4] Support hot-remove local pagetable pages Jianguo Wu
2013-06-17 2:07 ` Tang Chen
2013-06-18 17:05 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2013-06-18 23:59 ` Toshi Kani [this message]
2013-06-19 2:58 ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-06-19 15:32 ` Toshi Kani
2013-06-19 7:29 ` Tang Chen
2013-06-19 10:00 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2013-06-19 15:18 ` Toshi Kani
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=1371599989.22206.6.camel@misato.fc.hp.com \
--to=toshi.kani@hp.com \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=gong.chen@linux.intel.com \
--cc=hpa@zytor.com \
--cc=isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com \
--cc=jiang.liu@huawei.com \
--cc=jweiner@redhat.com \
--cc=laijs@cn.fujitsu.com \
--cc=linux-doc@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
--cc=lwoodman@redhat.com \
--cc=mgorman@suse.de \
--cc=mina86@mina86.com \
--cc=minchan@kernel.org \
--cc=mingo@elte.hu \
--cc=prarit@redhat.com \
--cc=riel@redhat.com \
--cc=tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com \
--cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
--cc=tj@kernel.org \
--cc=trenn@suse.de \
--cc=vasilis.liaskovitis@profitbricks.com \
--cc=wency@cn.fujitsu.com \
--cc=x86@kernel.org \
--cc=yinghai@kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox