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From: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Tang Chen <tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	jiang.liu@huawei.com, wujianguo@huawei.com, wency@cn.fujitsu.com,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, linfeng@cn.fujitsu.com, yinghai@kernel.org,
	isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com, rob@landley.net,
	kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, minchan.kim@gmail.com,
	mgorman@suse.de, rientjes@google.com, guz.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com,
	rusty@rustcorp.com.au, lliubbo@gmail.com,
	jaegeuk.hanse@gmail.com, tony.luck@intel.com,
	glommer@parallels.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/5] Add movablecore_map boot option
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:05:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1358208301.14145.118.camel@misato.fc.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130114143456.3962f3bd.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Mon, 2013-01-14 at 14:34 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:31:33 -0800
> "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 01/14/2013 01:15 AM, Tang Chen wrote:
> > >
> > > For now, users can disable this functionality by not specifying the boot option.
> > > Later, we will post SRAT support, and add another option value "movablecore_map=acpi"
> > > to using SRAT.
> > >
> > 
> > I still think the option "movablecore_map" is uglier than hell.  "core" 
> > could just as easily refer to CPU cores there, but it is a memory mem. 
> > "movablemem" seems more appropriate.
> > 
> > Again, without SRAT I consider this patchset to be largely useless for 
> > anything other than prototyping work.
> > 
> 
> hm, why.  Obviously SRAT support will improve things, but is it
> actually unusable/unuseful with the command line configuration?

I think it is useful for prototyping and testing.  I do not think it is
suitable for regular users.

> Also, "But even if we can use SRAT, users still need an interface to
> enable/disable this functionality if they don't want to loose their
> NUMA performance.  So I think, an user interface is always needed."

Yes, but such user interface could be provided through the management
interface (GUI/CLI) of the platforms (or VMs).  If user sets for
performance, SRAT could be generated with no hot-pluggable memory.  If
user sets node N to be hot-removable, SRAT could be generated in such
way that all memory ranges in node N are hot-pluggable.

Thanks,
-Toshi


> There's also the matter of other architectures.  Has any thought been
> given to how (eg) powerpc would hook into here?
> 
> And what about VMs (xen, KVM)?  I wonder if there is a case for those
> to implement memory hotplug.  
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-15  0:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-14  9:15 Tang Chen
2013-01-14  9:15 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] x86: get pg_data_t's memory from other node Tang Chen
2013-01-14  9:15 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] page_alloc: add movable_memmap kernel parameter Tang Chen
2013-01-14 22:35   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-14  9:15 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] page_alloc: Introduce zone_movable_limit[] to keep movable limit for nodes Tang Chen
2013-01-14  9:15 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] page_alloc: Make movablecore_map has higher priority Tang Chen
2013-01-14  9:15 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] page_alloc: Bootmem limit with movablecore_map Tang Chen
2013-01-14 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 0/5] Add movablecore_map boot option H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-14 22:34   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-14 22:41     ` Luck, Tony
2013-01-14 22:46       ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-16  6:25         ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-16 21:29           ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-16 22:01             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-01-16 23:00               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-17 20:27                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-01-16 22:52             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-17  1:49               ` Tang Chen
2013-01-17 20:20                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-01-17  5:08               ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-17  6:03                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-17 16:30                   ` Luck, Tony
2013-01-17 20:28                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-01-18  6:05                       ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-18  6:25                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-18  7:38                           ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-18  8:08                             ` Tang Chen
2013-01-18  9:23                               ` li guang
2013-01-18 18:29                                 ` Luck, Tony
2013-01-19  1:06                                   ` Jiang Liu
2013-01-19  7:52                                     ` Chen Gong
2013-01-21  7:36                                   ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-15  1:23       ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-15  3:44         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-15  4:04           ` Luck, Tony
2013-01-15  0:05     ` Toshi Kani [this message]

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