From: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
To: Hanjun Guo <guohanjun@huawei.com>
Cc: Vasilis Liaskovitis <vasilis.liaskovitis@profitbricks.com>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com,
wency@cn.fujitsu.com, rjw@sisk.pl, lenb@kernel.org,
gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Tang Chen <tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] acpi: Introduce prepare_remove device operation
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:41:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1354128096.26955.276.camel@misato.fc.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50B5EFE9.3040206@huawei.com>
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:05 +0800, Hanjun Guo wrote:
> On 2012/11/24 1:50, Vasilis Liaskovitis wrote:
> > As discussed in https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1581581/
> > the driver core remove function needs to always succeed. This means we need
> > to know that the device can be successfully removed before acpi_bus_trim /
> > acpi_bus_hot_remove_device are called. This can cause panics when OSPM-initiated
> > or SCI-initiated eject of memory devices fail e.g with:
> > echo 1 >/sys/bus/pci/devices/PNP0C80:XX/eject
> >
> > since the ACPI core goes ahead and ejects the device regardless of whether the
> > the memory is still in use or not.
> >
> > For this reason a new acpi_device operation called prepare_remove is introduced.
> > This operation should be registered for acpi devices whose removal (from kernel
> > perspective) can fail. Memory devices fall in this category.
> >
> > acpi_bus_remove() is changed to handle removal in 2 steps:
> > - preparation for removal i.e. perform part of removal that can fail. Should
> > succeed for device and all its children.
> > - if above step was successfull, proceed to actual device removal
>
> Hi Vasilis,
> We met the same problem when we doing computer node hotplug, It is a good idea
> to introduce prepare_remove before actual device removal.
>
> I think we could do more in prepare_remove, such as rollback. In most cases, we can
> offline most of memory sections except kernel used pages now, should we rollback
> and online the memory sections when prepare_remove failed ?
I think hot-plug operation should have all-or-nothing semantics. That
is, an operation should either complete successfully, or rollback to the
original state.
> As you may know, the ACPI based hotplug framework we are working on already addressed
> this problem, and the way we slove this problem is a bit like yours.
>
> We introduce hp_ops in struct acpi_device_ops:
> struct acpi_device_ops {
> acpi_op_add add;
> acpi_op_remove remove;
> acpi_op_start start;
> acpi_op_bind bind;
> acpi_op_unbind unbind;
> acpi_op_notify notify;
> #ifdef CONFIG_ACPI_HOTPLUG
> struct acpihp_dev_ops *hp_ops;
> #endif /* CONFIG_ACPI_HOTPLUG */
> };
>
> in hp_ops, we divide the prepare_remove into six small steps, that is:
> 1) pre_release(): optional step to mark device going to be removed/busy
> 2) release(): reclaim device from running system
> 3) post_release(): rollback if cancelled by user or error happened
> 4) pre_unconfigure(): optional step to solve possible dependency issue
> 5) unconfigure(): remove devices from running system
> 6) post_unconfigure(): free resources used by devices
>
> In this way, we can easily rollback if error happens.
> How do you think of this solution, any suggestion ? I think we can achieve
> a better way for sharing ideas. :)
Yes, sharing idea is good. :) I do not know if we need all 6 steps (I
have not looked at all your changes yet..), but in my mind, a hot-plug
operation should be composed with the following 3 phases.
1. Validate phase - Verify if the request is a supported operation. All
known restrictions are verified at this phase. For instance, if a
hot-remove request involves kernel memory, it is failed in this phase.
Since this phase makes no change, no rollback is necessary to fail.
2. Execute phase - Perform hot-add / hot-remove operation that can be
rolled-back in case of error or cancel.
3. Commit phase - Perform the final hot-add / hot-remove operation that
cannot be rolled-back. No error / cancel is allowed in this phase. For
instance, eject operation is performed at this phase.
Thanks,
-Toshi
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-28 18:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-23 17:50 Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-11-23 17:50 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/3] acpi: Introduce prepare_remove operation in acpi_device_ops Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-11-27 0:10 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-27 18:36 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-11-27 23:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-23 17:50 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/3] acpi_memhotplug: Add prepare_remove operation Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-11-24 16:23 ` Wen Congyang
2012-11-23 17:50 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/3] acpi_memhotplug: Allow eject to proceed on rebind scenario Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-11-24 16:20 ` Wen Congyang
2012-11-26 8:36 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-11-26 9:11 ` Wen Congyang
2012-11-27 0:19 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-27 18:32 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-11-27 22:03 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-27 23:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-28 16:01 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-28 18:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-28 21:02 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-28 21:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-28 21:40 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-28 22:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-28 22:04 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-28 22:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-28 22:16 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-28 22:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-28 22:46 ` Greg KH
2012-11-28 23:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-28 23:10 ` Greg KH
2012-11-28 23:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-28 23:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-29 1:02 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-29 1:15 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-29 10:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-29 11:30 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-11-29 16:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-29 17:56 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-29 20:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-29 20:38 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-29 21:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-29 21:46 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-29 22:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-29 23:17 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-30 0:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-30 1:09 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-29 16:43 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-29 11:04 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-11-29 17:44 ` Toshi Kani
2012-12-06 9:30 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-12-06 12:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-12-06 15:41 ` Toshi Kani
2012-12-06 20:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-28 11:05 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] acpi: Introduce prepare_remove device operation Hanjun Guo
2012-11-28 18:41 ` Toshi Kani [this message]
2012-11-29 4:48 ` Hanjun Guo
2012-11-29 22:27 ` Toshi Kani
2012-12-03 4:25 ` Hanjun Guo
2012-12-04 0:10 ` Toshi Kani
2012-12-04 9:16 ` Hanjun Guo
2012-12-04 23:23 ` Toshi Kani
2012-12-05 12:10 ` Hanjun Guo
2012-12-05 22:31 ` Toshi Kani
2012-12-06 16:47 ` Jiang Liu
2012-12-07 2:25 ` Toshi Kani
2012-12-06 16:40 ` Jiang Liu
2012-12-06 20:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-12-07 2:57 ` Toshi Kani
2012-12-07 5:57 ` Jiang Liu
2012-12-08 1:08 ` Toshi Kani
2012-12-11 14:34 ` Jiang Liu
2012-12-13 14:42 ` Toshi Kani
2012-12-13 15:15 ` Jiang Liu
2012-12-15 1:19 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-29 10:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-29 11:36 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-12-06 16:59 ` Jiang Liu
2012-11-29 17:03 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-29 20:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-29 20:39 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-29 20:56 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-29 21:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-12-06 17:10 ` Jiang Liu
2012-12-06 17:07 ` Jiang Liu
2012-12-06 17:01 ` Jiang Liu
2012-12-06 16:56 ` Jiang Liu
2012-12-06 16:00 ` Jiang Liu
2012-12-06 16:03 ` Toshi Kani
2012-12-06 16:25 ` Jiang Liu
2012-12-06 16:31 ` Toshi Kani
2012-12-06 16:52 ` Jiang Liu
2012-12-06 17:09 ` Toshi Kani
2012-12-06 17:30 ` Jiang Liu
2012-12-06 17:28 ` Toshi Kani
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