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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>
Cc: Ezequiel Garcia <elezegarcia@gmail.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"celinux-dev@lists.celinuxforum.org"
	<celinux-dev@lists.celinuxforum.org>
Subject: Re: [Q] Default SLAB allocator
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:13:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1350501217.26103.852.camel@edumazet-glaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <507EFCC3.1050304@am.sony.com>

On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 11:45 -0700, Tim Bird wrote:

> 8G is a small web server?  The RAM budget for Linux on one of
> Sony's cameras was 10M.  We're not merely not in the same ballpark -
> you're in a ballpark and I'm trimming bonsai trees... :-)
> 

Even laptops in 2012 have +4GB of ram.

(Maybe not Sony laptops, I have to double check ?)

Yes, servers do have more ram than laptops.

(Maybe not Sony servers, I have to double check ?)

> > # grep Slab /proc/meminfo
> > Slab:             351592 kB
> > 
> > # egrep "kmalloc-32|kmalloc-16|kmalloc-8" /proc/slabinfo 
> > kmalloc-32         11332  12544     32  128    1 : tunables    0    0    0 : slabdata     98     98      0
> > kmalloc-16          5888   5888     16  256    1 : tunables    0    0    0 : slabdata     23     23      0
> > kmalloc-8          76563  82432      8  512    1 : tunables    0    0    0 : slabdata    161    161      0
> > 
> > Really, some waste on these small objects is pure noise on SMP hosts.
> In this example, it appears that if all kmalloc-8's were pushed into 32-byte slabs,
> we'd lose about 1.8 meg due to pure slab overhead.  This would not be noise
> on my system.


I said :

<quote>
I would remove small kmalloc-XX caches, as sharing a cache line
is sometime dangerous for performance, because of false sharing.

They make sense only for very small hosts
</quote>

I think your 10M cameras are very tiny hosts.

Using SLUB on them might not be the best choice.

First time I ran linux, years ago, it was on 486SX machines with 8M of
memory (or maybe less, I dont remember exactly). But I no longer use
this class of machines with recent kernels.

# size vmlinux
   text	   data	    bss	    dec	    hex	filename
10290631	1278976	1896448	13466055	 cd79c7	vmlinux


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-17 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-11 14:19 Ezequiel Garcia
2012-10-11 22:42 ` Andi Kleen
2012-10-11 22:59   ` David Rientjes
2012-10-11 23:10     ` Andi Kleen
2012-10-12 12:07       ` Ezequiel Garcia
2012-10-13  9:54         ` David Rientjes
2012-10-13 12:44           ` Ezequiel Garcia
2012-10-16  0:46             ` David Rientjes
2012-10-16 12:35               ` Ezequiel Garcia
2012-10-16 12:56                 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-16 18:07                   ` Tim Bird
2012-10-16 18:27                     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2012-10-16 18:44                       ` Tim Bird
2012-10-16 18:49                         ` Ezequiel Garcia
2012-10-16 19:16                       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-17 18:45                         ` Tim Bird
2012-10-17 19:13                           ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2012-10-17 19:20                             ` Shentino
2012-10-17 20:33                               ` Tim Bird
2012-10-18  0:46                                 ` Shentino
2012-10-17 20:58                             ` Tim Bird
2012-10-17 21:05                               ` Ezequiel Garcia
2012-10-16 18:36                     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2012-10-16 18:54                       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-13  9:51       ` David Rientjes
2012-10-13 15:10         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-16  1:28           ` JoonSoo Kim
2012-10-16  7:23             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-19  0:03           ` JoonSoo Kim
2012-10-19  7:01             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-16  0:45         ` David Rientjes
2012-10-16 18:53           ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-16 19:02 ` Christoph Lameter

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