From: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
Andrea Righi <arighi@develer.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] IO-less dirty throttling v11
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 15:14:46 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1315422886.4160.11.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110907133211.GA28442@localhost>
On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 21:32 +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > Finally, the complete IO-less balance_dirty_pages(). NFS is observed to perform
> > better or worse depending on the memory size. Otherwise the added patches can
> > address all known regressions.
>
> I find that the NFS performance regressions on large memory system can
> be fixed by this patch. It tries to make the progress more smooth by
> reasonably reducing the commit size.
>
> Thanks,
> Fengguang
> ---
> Subject: nfs: limit the commit size to reduce fluctuations
> Date: Thu Dec 16 13:22:43 CST 2010
>
> Limit the commit size to half the dirty control scope, so that the
> arrival of one commit will not knock the overall dirty pages off the
> scope.
>
> Also limit the commit size to one second worth of data. This will
> obviously help make the pipeline run more smoothly.
>
> Also change "<=" to "<": if an inode has only one dirty page in the end,
> it should be committed. I wonder why the "<=" didn't cause a bug...
>
> CC: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
> Signed-off-by: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
> ---
> fs/nfs/write.c | 8 ++++++--
> 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> After patch, there are still drop offs from the control scope,
>
> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/wfg/writeback/dirty-throttling-v6/NFS/nfs-1dd-1M-8p-2945M-20%25-2.6.38-rc6-dt6+-2011-02-22-21-09/balance_dirty_pages-pages.png
>
> due to bursty arrival of commits:
>
> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/wfg/writeback/dirty-throttling-v6/NFS/nfs-1dd-1M-8p-2945M-20%25-2.6.38-rc6-dt6+-2011-02-22-21-09/nfs-commit.png
>
> --- linux-next.orig/fs/nfs/write.c 2011-09-07 21:29:15.000000000 +0800
> +++ linux-next/fs/nfs/write.c 2011-09-07 21:29:32.000000000 +0800
> @@ -1543,10 +1543,14 @@ static int nfs_commit_unstable_pages(str
> int ret = 0;
>
> if (wbc->sync_mode == WB_SYNC_NONE) {
> + unsigned long bw = MIN_WRITEBACK_PAGES +
> + NFS_SERVER(inode)->backing_dev_info.avg_write_bandwidth;
> +
> /* Don't commit yet if this is a non-blocking flush and there
> - * are a lot of outstanding writes for this mapping.
> + * are a lot of outstanding writes for this mapping, until
> + * collected enough pages to commit.
> */
> - if (nfsi->ncommit <= (nfsi->npages >> 1))
> + if (nfsi->ncommit < min(nfsi->npages / DIRTY_SCOPE, bw))
> goto out_mark_dirty;
>
> /* don't wait for the COMMIT response */
So what goes into the 'avg_write_bandwidth' variable that makes it a
good measure above (why 1 second of data instead of 10 seconds or
1ms, ...)? What is the 'DIRTY_SCOPE' value?
IOW: what new black magic are we introducing above and why is it so
obviously better than what we have (yes, I see you have graphs, but that
is just measuring _one_ NFS setup and workload).
--
Trond Myklebust
Linux NFS client maintainer
NetApp
Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com
www.netapp.com
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-07 19:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-04 1:53 Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 01/18] writeback: account per-bdi accumulated dirtied pages Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 02/18] writeback: dirty position control Wu Fengguang
2011-09-05 15:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 2:10 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-05 15:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 2:43 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 18:20 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-09-08 2:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-12 5:44 ` Nai Xia
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 03/18] writeback: dirty rate control Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29 11:57 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 04/18] writeback: stabilize bdi->dirty_ratelimit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 05/18] writeback: per task dirty rate limit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 15:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 23:27 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-06 23:34 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07 7:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 1:04 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 7:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 11:00 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 06/18] writeback: IO-less balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 12:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 2:46 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 07/18] writeback: dirty ratelimit - think time compensation Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 08/18] writeback: trace dirty_ratelimit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 09/18] writeback: trace balance_dirty_pages Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 10/18] writeback: dirty position control - bdi reserve area Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 12:31 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-18 14:17 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-18 14:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-18 14:47 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-28 14:02 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-28 14:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-29 3:32 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29 8:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-29 11:05 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29 12:15 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 11/18] block: add bdi flag to indicate risk of io queue underrun Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 2:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 7:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 12/18] writeback: balanced_rate cannot exceed write bandwidth Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 13/18] writeback: limit max dirty pause time Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 2:35 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-18 14:23 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 14/18] writeback: control " Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 2:02 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 15/18] writeback: charge leaked page dirties to active tasks Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 16:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 9:06 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 0:17 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07 9:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 16/18] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on sub-page writes Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 17/18] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on redirty Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 16:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 0:22 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07 1:18 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 6:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-07 8:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 16:42 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07 16:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-08 8:51 ` Steven Whitehouse
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 18/18] btrfs: fix dirtied pages accounting on sub-page writes Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 13:32 ` [PATCH 00/18] IO-less dirty throttling v11 Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 19:14 ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2011-09-28 14:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-29 4:11 ` Wu Fengguang
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