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From: Mahmood Naderan <nt_mahmood@yahoo.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
	"\"\"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org\"\""
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"\"linux-mm@kvack.org\"" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: running of out memory => kernel crash
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 00:07:02 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1313046422.18195.YahooMailNeo@web111711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1108102106410.14230@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

>The default behavior is to kill all eligible and unkillable threads until 
>there are none left to sacrifice (i.e. all kthreads and OOM_DISABLE).
 
In a simple test with virtualbox, I reduced the amount of ram to 300MB. 
Then I ran "swapoff -a" and opened some applications. I noticed that the free
spaces is kept around 2-3MB and "kswapd" is running. Also I saw that disk
activity was very high. 
That mean although "swap" partition is turned off, "kswapd" was trying to do
something. I wonder how that behavior can be explained?

>Ok, so you don't have a /proc/pid/oom_score_adj, so you're using a kernel 
>that predates 2.6.36.
Yes, the srv machine that I posted those results, has kernel before 2.6.36



// Naderan *Mahmood;


----- Original Message -----
From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Mahmood Naderan <nt_mahmood@yahoo.com>
Cc: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>; ""linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org"" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>; "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: running of out memory => kernel crash

On Wed, 10 Aug 2011, Mahmood Naderan wrote:

> >If you're using cpusets or mempolicies, you must ensure that all tasks 
> >attached to either of them are not set to OOM_DISABLE.  It seems unlikely 
> >that you're using those, so it seems like a system-wide oom condition.
>  
> I didn't do that manually. What is the default behaviour? Does oom
> working or not?
> 

The default behavior is to kill all eligible and unkillable threads until 
there are none left to sacrifice (i.e. all kthreads and OOM_DISABLE).

> For a user process:
> 
> root@srv:~# cat /proc/18564/oom_score
> 9198
> root@srv:~# cat /proc/18564/oom_adj
> 0
> 

Ok, so you don't have a /proc/pid/oom_score_adj, so you're using a kernel 
that predates 2.6.36.

> And for "init" process:
> 
> root@srv:~# cat /proc/1/oom_score
> 17509
> root@srv:~# cat /proc/1/oom_adj
> 0
> 
> Based on my understandings, in an out of memory condition (oom),
> the init process is more eligible to be killed!!!!!!! Is that right?
> 

init is exempt from oom killing, it's oom_score is meaningless.

> Again I didn't get my answer yet:
> What is the default behavior of linux in an oom condition? If the default is,
> crash (kernel panic), then how can I change that in such a way to kill
> the hungry process?
> 

You either have /proc/sys/vm/panic_on_oom set or it's killing a thread 
that is taking down the entire machine.  If it's the latter, then please 
capture the kernel log and post it as Randy suggested.

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-11  7:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1312872786.70934.YahooMailNeo@web111712.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
2011-08-09  7:06 ` Randy Dunlap
     [not found]   ` <1312874259.89770.YahooMailNeo@web111704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
2011-08-09 16:03     ` David Rientjes
2011-08-10  8:14       ` Mahmood Naderan
2011-08-11  4:09         ` David Rientjes
2011-08-11  7:07           ` Mahmood Naderan [this message]
2011-08-11  7:13             ` David Rientjes
2011-08-11  8:02               ` Mahmood Naderan
2011-08-11 12:47                 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-08-11 15:13                   ` Mahmood Naderan
2011-08-11 17:38                     ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-08-17  8:50                       ` Mahmood Naderan
2011-08-18  2:18                       ` Pavel Ivanov
2011-08-18 12:44                         ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-08-18 14:26                           ` Pavel Ivanov
2011-08-18 22:25                             ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-08-19 19:21                               ` David Rientjes
2011-08-19 19:29                             ` Bryan Donlan
2011-08-19 21:19                               ` Chris Friesen
2011-08-19 21:38                                 ` Alan Cox

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