From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
colin.king@canonical.com, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
mgorman@novell.com
Subject: Re: [BUG] fatal hang untarring 90GB file, possibly writeback related.
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:30:36 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1304015436.2598.19.camel@mulgrave.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110428171826.GZ4658@suse.de>
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 18:18 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:56:17AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > # Events: 6K cycles
> > #
> > # Overhead Command Shared Object Symbol
> > # ........ ........... ................... .......................................
> > #
> > 20.41% kswapd0 [kernel.kallsyms] [k] shrink_slab
> > |
> > --- shrink_slab
> > |
> > |--99.91%-- kswapd
> > | kthread
> > | kernel_thread_helper
> > --0.09%-- [...]
> >
>
> Ok. I can't see how the patch "mm: vmscan: reclaim order-0 and use
> compaction instead of lumpy reclaim" is related unless we are seeing
> two problems that happen to manifest in a similar manner.
>
> However, there were a number of changes made to dcache in particular
> for 2.6.38. Specifically thinks like dentry_kill use trylock and is
> happy to loop around if it fails to acquire anything. See things like
> this for example;
OK, so for this, I tried a 2.6.37 kernel. It doesn't work very well,
networking is hosed for no reason I can see (probably systemd / cgroups
problems).
However, it runs enough for me to say that the tar proceeds to
completion in a non-PREEMPT kernel. (I tried several times for good
measure). That makes this definitely a regression of some sort, but it
doesn't definitively identify the dcache code ... it could be an ext4
bug that got introduced in 2.6.38 either.
> static void try_prune_one_dentry(struct dentry *dentry)
> __releases(dentry->d_lock)
> {
> struct dentry *parent;
>
> parent = dentry_kill(dentry, 0);
> /*
> * If dentry_kill returns NULL, we have nothing more to do.
> * if it returns the same dentry, trylocks failed. In either
> * case, just loop again.
>
>
> If this in combination with many inodes being locked for whatever
> reason (writeback locking them maybe?) is causing the shrinker to
> return after zero progress, it could in turn cause kswapd to enter
> into a loop for longish periods of time in shrink_slab here;
>
> while (total_scan >= SHRINK_BATCH) {
> long this_scan = SHRINK_BATCH;
> int shrink_ret;
> int nr_before;
>
> nr_before = (*shrinker->shrink)(shrinker, 0, gfp_mask);
> shrink_ret = (*shrinker->shrink)(shrinker, this_scan,
> gfp_mask);
> if (shrink_ret == -1)
> break;
> if (shrink_ret < nr_before)
> ret += nr_before - shrink_ret;
> count_vm_events(SLABS_SCANNED, this_scan);
> total_scan -= this_scan;
>
> cond_resched();
> }
>
> That would explain this trace.
>
> > 9.98% kswapd0 [kernel.kallsyms] [k] shrink_zone
> > |
> > --- shrink_zone
> > |
> > |--99.46%-- kswapd
> > | kthread
> > | kernel_thread_helper
> > |
> > --0.54%-- kthread
> > kernel_thread_helper
> >
> > 7.70% kswapd0 [kernel.kallsyms] [k] kswapd
> > |
> > --- kswapd
> > kthread
> > kernel_thread_helper
> >
> > 5.40% kswapd0 [kernel.kallsyms] [k] zone_watermark_ok_safe
> > |
> > --- zone_watermark_ok_safe
> > |
> > |--72.66%-- kswapd
> > | kthread
> > | kernel_thread_helper
> > |
> > |--20.88%-- sleeping_prematurely.part.12
> > | kswapd
> > | kthread
> > | kernel_thread_helper
> > |
> > --6.46%-- kthread
> > kernel_thread_helper
> >
>
> We are also spending an astonishing amount of time in
> sleeping_prematurely leading me to believe we are failing to balance the
> zones and are continually under the min watermark for one of the zones.
> We are never going to sleep because of this check;
>
> if (total_scanned && (priority < DEF_PRIORITY - 2)) {
> if (has_under_min_watermark_zone)
> count_vm_event(KSWAPD_SKIP_CONGESTION_WAIT);
> else
> congestion_wait(BLK_RW_ASYNC, HZ/10);
> }
>
> However, I think this is a secondary effect to the failure of shrinkers
> to do their work. If slabs were being shrunk, one would expect us to
> be getting over the min watermark.
>
> > 4.25% kswapd0 [kernel.kallsyms] [k] do_raw_spin_lock
> > |
> > --- do_raw_spin_lock
> > |
> > |--77.49%-- _raw_spin_lock
> > | |
> > | |--51.85%-- mb_cache_shrink_fn
> > | | shrink_slab
> > | | kswapd
> > | | kthread
> > | | kernel_thread_helper
> > | |
> > | --48.15%-- mem_cgroup_soft_limit_reclaim
> > | kswapd
> > | kthread
> > | kernel_thread_helper
> > |
>
> Way hey, cgroups are also in the mix. How jolly.
>
> Is systemd a common element of the machines hitting this bug by any
> chance?
Well, yes, the bug report is against FC15, which needs cgroups for
systemd.
> The remaining traces seem to be follow-on damage related to the three
> issues of "shrinkers are bust in some manner" causing "we are not
> getting over the min watermark" and as a side-show "we are spending lots
> of time doing something unspecified but unhelpful in cgroups".
Heh, well find a way for me to verify this: I can't turn off cgroups
because systemd then won't work and the machine won't boot ...
James
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-28 18:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-27 16:09 James Bottomley
2011-04-27 16:33 ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 16:50 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 16:54 ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 17:21 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 17:34 ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 17:50 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 18:25 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 15:57 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 20:05 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 11:36 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 12:29 ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 13:42 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 13:45 ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 14:01 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 14:04 ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 15:23 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 14:25 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 14:33 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 14:58 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 22:40 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 22:44 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03 18:55 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 16:11 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 14:49 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 13:52 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 14:07 ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 14:25 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 15:08 ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 16:01 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 16:50 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 16:56 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 17:18 ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 18:30 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2011-04-28 19:21 ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 19:59 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 20:27 ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-29 15:02 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 21:12 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 22:43 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03 9:13 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-03 14:13 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03 14:22 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-06 7:42 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 8:07 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-09 18:16 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 10:21 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 10:33 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-10 14:01 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 14:35 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 15:29 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 15:57 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 17:05 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 17:17 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 17:29 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 21:08 ` Raghavendra D Prabhu
2011-05-11 9:16 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 11:42 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 15:44 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 19:14 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-06 19:37 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 5:37 ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-06 15:58 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03 9:54 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 17:10 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 0:37 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-29 10:23 ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-29 15:37 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-29 16:31 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-29 18:02 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-02 20:04 ` James Bottomley
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