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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] percpu: preemptless __per_cpu_counter_add
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 17:48:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1304005726.3360.69.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1104281017240.16323@router.home>

Le jeudi 28 avril 2011 A  10:22 -0500, Christoph Lameter a A(C)crit :
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Tejun Heo wrote:
> 
> > It seems like we can split hairs all day long about the similarities
> > and differences with atomics, so let's forget about atomics for now.
> 
> Ok good idea. So you accept that per cpu counters are inevitably fuzzy and
> that the result cannot be relied upon in the same way as on atomics?
> 
> > I don't like any update having possibility of causing @batch jumps in
> > _sum() result.  That severely limits the usefulness of hugely
> > expensive _sum() and the ability to scale @batch.  Not everything in
> > the world is vmstat.  Think about other _CURRENT_ use cases in
> > filesystems.
> 
> Of course you can cause jumps > batch. You are looping over 8 cpus and
> have done cpu 1 and 2 already. Then cpu 1 adds batch-1 to the local per
> cpu counter. cpu 2 increments its per cpu counter. When _sum returns we
> have deviation of batch.
> 
> In the worst case the deviation can increase to (NR_CPUS - 1) * (batch
> -1). That is for the current code!!!
> 
> The hugely expensive _sum() is IMHO pretty useless given the above. It is
> a function that is called with the *hope* of getting a more accurate
> result.
> 
> The only way to reduce the fuzziness is by reducing batch. But then you
> dont need the _sum function.
> 
> Either that or you need additional external synchronization by the
> subsystem that prevents updates.
> 
> 

We could add a seqcount (shared), and increment it each time one cpu
changes global count.

_sum() could get an additional parameter, the max number of allowed
changes during _sum() run.

If _sum() notices seqcount was changed too much, restart the loop.

s64 __percpu_counter_sum(struct percpu_counter *fbc, unsigned maxfuzzy)
{
	s64 ret;
	unsigned int oldseq, newseq;
	int cpu;
restart:
	oldseq = fbc->seqcount;
	smp_rmb();
	ret = fbc->count;
	for_each_online_cpu(cpu) {
		s32 *pcount = per_cpu_ptr(fbc->counters, cpu);
		ret += *pcount;
	}
	smp_rmb()
	newseq = fbc->count;
	if (newseq - oldseq >= maxfuzzy)
		goto restart;
	return ret;
}



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-04-28 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-13 14:45 Christoph Lameter
2011-04-13 16:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-13 18:56   ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-13 20:22     ` [PATCH] " Christoph Lameter
2011-04-13 21:50       ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-13 22:17         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-13 22:23           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-13 23:55             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-14  2:00               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-14  2:14       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-14 21:10         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-14 21:15           ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-15 17:37             ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-15 18:27               ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-15 19:43                 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-15 23:52                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-18 14:38                     ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-21 14:43                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-21 14:58                         ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-21 17:50                           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-21 18:01                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-21 18:20                               ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-21 18:37                                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-21 18:54                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-21 19:08                                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-22  2:33                                       ` Shaohua Li
2011-04-26 12:10                                         ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-26 19:02                                           ` Hugh Dickins
2011-04-27 10:28                                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-27  5:43                                           ` Shaohua Li
2011-04-27 10:20                                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28  3:28                                               ` Shaohua Li
2011-04-28 10:09                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 14:11                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 14:23                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 14:30                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 14:58                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 14:42                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 14:44                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 14:52                                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 14:56                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 15:05                                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 15:12                                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 15:22                                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 15:31                                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 15:40                                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 15:47                                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 15:48                                                                     ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2011-04-28 15:59                                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-28 16:17                                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 16:35                                                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-28 16:52                                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 16:59                                                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-29  8:52                                                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-29  8:32                                                                             ` Shaohua Li
2011-04-29  8:19                                                   ` Shaohua Li
2011-04-29  8:44                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-29 14:02                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-29 14:03                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-29 14:18                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-29 14:25                                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-29 14:43                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-29 14:55                                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-05  4:08                                                               ` Shaohua Li

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