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From: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] percpu: preemptless __per_cpu_counter_add
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 10:33:00 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1303439580.3981.241.camel@sli10-conroe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110421190807.GK15988@htj.dyndns.org>

On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 03:08 +0800, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 01:54:51PM -0500, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > Well again there is general fuzziness here and we are trying to make the
> > best of it without compromising performance too much. Shaohua's numbers
> > indicate that removing the lock is very advantagous. More over we do the
> > same thing in other places.
> 
> The problem with Shaohua's numbers is that it's a pessimistic test
> case with too low batch count.  If an optimization improves such
> situations without compromising funcitionality or introducing too much
> complexity, sure, why not?  But I'm not sure that's the case here.
> 
> > Actually its good to make the code paths for vmstats and percpu counters
> > similar. That is what this does too.
> > 
> > Preempt enable/disable in any function that is supposedly fast is
> > something bad that can be avoided with these patches as well.
> 
> If you really wanna push the _sum() fuziness change, the only way to
> do that would be auditing all the current users and making sure that
> it won't affect any of them.  It really doesn't matter what vmstat is
> doing.  They're different users.
> 
> And, no matter what, that's a separate issue from the this_cpu hot
> path optimizations and should be done separately.  So, _please_ update
> this_cpu patch so that it doesn't change the slow path semantics.
in the original implementation, a updater can change several times too,
it can update the count from -(batch -1) to (batch -1) without holding
the lock. so we always have batch*num_cpus*2 deviate

if we really worry about _sum deviates too much. can we do something
like this:
percpu_counter_sum
{
again:
	sum=0
	old = atomic64_read(&fbc->counter)
	for_each_online_cpu()
		sum += per cpu counter
	new = atomic64_read(&fbc->counter)
	if (new - old > batch * num_cpus || old - new > batch * num_cpus)
		goto again;
	return new + sum;
}
in this way we limited the deviate to number of concurrent updater. This
doesn't make _sum too slow too, because we have the batch * num_cpus
check.

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-22  2:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-13 14:45 Christoph Lameter
2011-04-13 16:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-13 18:56   ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-13 20:22     ` [PATCH] " Christoph Lameter
2011-04-13 21:50       ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-13 22:17         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-13 22:23           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-13 23:55             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-14  2:00               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-14  2:14       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-14 21:10         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-14 21:15           ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-15 17:37             ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-15 18:27               ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-15 19:43                 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-15 23:52                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-18 14:38                     ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-21 14:43                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-21 14:58                         ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-21 17:50                           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-21 18:01                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-21 18:20                               ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-21 18:37                                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-21 18:54                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-21 19:08                                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-22  2:33                                       ` Shaohua Li [this message]
2011-04-26 12:10                                         ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-26 19:02                                           ` Hugh Dickins
2011-04-27 10:28                                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-27  5:43                                           ` Shaohua Li
2011-04-27 10:20                                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28  3:28                                               ` Shaohua Li
2011-04-28 10:09                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 14:11                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 14:23                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 14:30                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 14:58                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 14:42                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 14:44                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 14:52                                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 14:56                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 15:05                                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 15:12                                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 15:22                                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 15:31                                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 15:40                                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 15:47                                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 15:48                                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-28 15:59                                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-28 16:17                                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 16:35                                                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-28 16:52                                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 16:59                                                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-29  8:52                                                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-29  8:32                                                                             ` Shaohua Li
2011-04-29  8:19                                                   ` Shaohua Li
2011-04-29  8:44                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-29 14:02                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-29 14:03                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-29 14:18                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-29 14:25                                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-29 14:43                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-29 14:55                                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-05  4:08                                                               ` Shaohua Li

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