From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] mm: make expand_downwards symmetrical to expand_upwards
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:15:37 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1303308938.2587.8.camel@mulgrave.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTim+m-v-4k17HUSOYSbmNFDtJTgD6g@mail.gmail.com>
[added linux-arch to cc since we're going to be affecting them]
On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 14:28 +0300, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> Right. My point was simply that since x86 doesn't support DISCONTIGMEM
> without NUMA, the misunderstanding is likely very wide-spread.
Why don't we approach the problem in a few separate ways then.
1. We can look at what imposing NUMA on the DISCONTIGMEM archs
would do ... the embedded ones are going to be hardest hit, but
if it's not too much extra code, it might be palatable.
2. The other is that we can audit mm to look at all the node
assumptions in the non-numa case. My suspicion is that
accidentally or otherwise, it mostly works for the normal case,
so there might not be much needed to pull it back to working
properly for DISCONTIGMEM.
3. Finally we could look at deprecating DISCONTIGMEM in favour of
SPARSEMEM, but we'd still need to fix -stable for that case.
Especially as it will take time to convert all the architectures
I'm certainly with Matthew: DISCONTIGMEM is supposed to be a lightweight
framework which allows machines with split physical memory ranges to
work. That's a very common case nowadays. Numa is supposed to be a
heavyweight framework to preserve node locality for non-uniform memory
access boxes (which none of the DISCONTIGMEM && !NUMA systems are).
James
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-20 14:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-15 13:51 [PATCH] " Michal Hocko
2011-04-18 3:00 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-04-18 10:01 ` [PATCH v2] " Michal Hocko
2011-04-18 20:56 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20110419091022.GA21689@tiehlicka.suse.cz>
2011-04-19 11:09 ` [PATCH followup] mm: get rid of CONFIG_STACK_GROWSUP || CONFIG_IA64 Michal Hocko
2011-04-20 0:33 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-20 6:59 ` Michal Hocko
2011-04-20 7:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-26 7:59 ` Michal Hocko
2011-04-19 11:10 ` [PATCH v3] mm: make expand_downwards symmetrical to expand_upwards Michal Hocko
2011-04-19 15:46 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-19 16:06 ` [PATCH v3] mm: make expand_downwards symmetrical to John David Anglin
2011-04-19 16:59 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-19 16:07 ` [PATCH v3] mm: make expand_downwards symmetrical to expand_upwards James Bottomley
2011-04-19 17:05 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-19 17:11 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-19 17:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-19 17:48 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-19 18:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-19 18:20 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-19 18:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-19 19:49 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-19 20:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-19 21:21 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-19 21:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-19 21:48 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-19 21:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-20 1:23 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-20 2:48 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-20 2:57 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-20 13:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-21 13:32 ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-20 5:53 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-20 7:15 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-20 7:34 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-20 8:40 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-20 16:32 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-20 16:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-20 18:09 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-20 21:18 ` David Rientjes
2011-04-20 22:15 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-20 23:12 ` David Rientjes
2011-04-21 13:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-21 16:37 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-21 18:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-21 18:45 ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-22 18:19 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-22 20:24 ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-22 20:35 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-22 21:33 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-23 18:34 ` [PATCH] convert parisc to sparsemem (was Re: [PATCH v3] mm: make expand_downwards symmetrical to expand_upwards) James Bottomley
2011-04-24 16:27 ` John David Anglin
2011-04-26 0:32 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-27 16:36 ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-21 20:05 ` [PATCH v3] mm: make expand_downwards symmetrical to expand_upwards James Bottomley
2011-04-21 21:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-21 21:22 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-21 19:33 ` David Rientjes
2011-04-22 0:34 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-21 13:03 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-21 19:38 ` David Rientjes
2011-04-21 20:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-21 21:19 ` David Rientjes
2011-04-21 21:24 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-21 21:34 ` David Rientjes
2011-04-21 21:49 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-21 22:12 ` David Rientjes
2011-04-22 8:02 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-22 13:49 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-22 17:00 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-22 17:03 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-21 21:41 ` [patch] mm: always set nodes with regular memory in N_NORMAL_MEMORY David Rientjes
2011-04-22 0:36 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-20 21:05 ` [PATCH v3] mm: make expand_downwards symmetrical to expand_upwards David Rientjes
2011-04-20 11:20 ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-04-20 11:28 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-20 14:15 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2011-04-20 14:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-20 15:02 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-20 15:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-20 19:25 ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-04-20 21:42 ` David Rientjes
2011-04-21 16:06 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-21 22:19 ` David Rientjes
2011-04-21 22:31 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-20 13:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-20 21:34 ` David Rientjes
2011-04-20 14:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-20 2:33 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-19 17:12 ` Christoph Lameter
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