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From: Neeraj Kumar <s.neeraj@samsung.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] CXL Hotness Monitoring Unit perf driver
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 10:57:22 +0530	[thread overview]
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On 27/11/24 04:34PM, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
>On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 10:18:41 +0000
>Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com> wrote:
>
>> The CXL specification release 3.2 is now available under a click through at
>> https://computeexpresslink.org/cxl-specification/ and it brings new
>> shiny toys.
>
>If anyone wants to play, basic emulation on my CXL QEMU staging tree
>https://gitlab.com/jic23/qemu/-/commit/e89b35d264c1bcc04807e7afab1254f35ffc8cb9
>
>Branch with a few other things on top is:
>https://gitlab.com/jic23/qemu/-/commits/cxl-2024-11-27
>
>Note that this currently doesn't produce real data.  I have a plan
>/ initial PoC / hack to hook that up via an addition to the QEMU cache
>plugin and an external tool to emulate the hotness tracker counting
>hardware. Will be a little while before I get that finished, so in
>a meantime the above exercises the driver.
>
>Jonathan
>
>>
>> RFC reason
>> - Whilst trace capture with a particular configuration is potentially useful
>>   the intent is that CXL HMU units will be used to drive various forms of
>>   hotpage migration for memory tiering setups. This driver doesn't do this
>>   (yet), but rather provides data capture etc for experimentation and
>>   for working out how to mostly put the allocations in the right place to
>>   start with by tuning applications.
>>
>> CXL r3.2 introduces a CXL Hotness Monitoring Unit definition. The intent
>> of this is to provide a way to establish which units of memory (typically
>> pages or larger) in CXL attached memory are hot. The implementation details
>> and algorithm are all implementation defined. The specification simply
>> describes the 'interface' which takes the form of ring buffer of hotness
>> records in a PCI BAR and defined capability, configuration and status
>> registers.
>>
>> The hardware may have constraints on what it can track, granularity etc
>> and on how accurately it tracks (e.g. counter exhaustion, inaccurate
>> trackers). Some of these constraints are discoverable from the hardware
>> registers, others such as loss of accuracy have no universally accepted
>> measures as they are typically access pattern dependent. Sadly it is
>> very unlikely any hardware will implement a truly precise tracker given
>> the large resource requirements for tracking at a useful granularity.
>>
>> There are two fundamental operation modes:
>>
>> * Epoch based. Counters are checked after a period of time (Epoch) and
>>   if over a threshold added to the hotlist.
>> * Always on. Counters run until a threshold is reached, after that the
>>   hot unit is added to the hotlist and the counter released.
>>
>> Counting can be filtered on:
>>
>> * Region of CXL DPA space (256MiB per bit in a bitmap).
>> * Type of access - Trusted and non trusted or non trusted only, R/W/RW
>>
>> Sampling can be modified by:
>>
>> * Downsampling including potentially randomized downsampling.
>>
>> The driver presented here is intended to be useful in its own right but
>> also to act as the first step of a possible path towards hotness monitoring
>> based hot page migration. Those steps might look like.
>>
>> 1. Gather data - drivers provide telemetry like solutions to get that
>>    data. May be enhanced, for example in this driver by providing the
>>    HPA address rather than DPA Unit Address. Userspace can access enough
>>    information to do this so maybe not.
>> 2. Userspace algorithm development, possibly combined with userspace
>>    triggered migration by PA. Working out how to use different levels
>>    of constrained hardware resources will be challenging.
>> 3. Move those algorithms in kernel. Will require generalization across
>>    different hotpage trackers etc.
>>
>> So far this driver just gives access to the raw data. I will probably kick
>> of a longer discussion on how to do adaptive sampling needed to actually
>> use these units for tiering etc, sometime soon (if no one one else beats
>> me too it).  There is a follow up topic of how to virtualize this stuff
>> for memory stranding cases (VM gets a fixed mixture of fast and slow
>> memory and should do it's own tiering).
>>
>> More details in the Documentation patch but typical commands are:
>>
>> $perf record -a  -e cxl_hmu_mem0.0.0/epoch_type=0,access_type=6,\
>>  hotness_threshold=1024,epoch_multiplier=4,epoch_scale=4,range_base=0,\
>>  range_size=1024,randomized_downsampling=0,downsampling_factor=32,\
>>  hotness_granual=12

Facing issue while executing perf record on x86 emulation environment using following steps

1. Tried applying CHMU Patch on branch cxl-for-6.13 using b4 utility. As
base commit is not specified, with minor change able to apply patch.
Compiled kernel with CONFIG_CXL_HMU

2. Compiled jic23/cxl-2024-11-27 for x86_64-softmmu

3. Launched Qemu with following CXL topology along with compiled kernel
VM="-object memory-backend-ram,id=vmem1,share=on,size=512M \
     -device pxb-cxl,bus_nr=12,bus=pcie.0,id=cxl.1 \
     -device cxl-rp,port=0,bus=cxl.1,id=root_port13,chassis=0,slot=2 \
     -device cxl-type3,bus=root_port13,volatile-memdev=vmem1,id=cxl-vmem1 \
     -M cxl-fmw.0.targets.0=cxl.1,cxl-fmw.0.size=4G,cxl-fmw.0.interleave-granularity=8k"

4. Created region and onlined this memory. Also run top utility on the newly created 
numa node using numactl -m<node> top

5. Compiled and installed perf utility in qemu environment, and able to
see cxl_hmu_mem* entries in perf list

root@QEMUCXL2030mm:~# perf list
<snip>
  cxl_hmu_mem0.0.0/hotness_granual=0..0xffffffff,hotness_threshold=0..0xffffffff,downsampling_factor=0..255,.../modifier[Raw ev>
  cxl_hmu_mem0.0.1/hotness_granual=0..0xffffffff,hotness_threshold=0..0xffffffff,downsampling_factor=0..255,.../modifier[Raw ev>
  cxl_hmu_mem0.0.2/hotness_granual=0..0xffffffff,hotness_threshold=0..0xffffffff,downsampling_factor=0..255,.../modifier[Raw ev>
  cxl_hmu_mem1.0.0/hotness_granual=0..0xffffffff,hotness_threshold=0..0xffffffff,downsampling_factor=0..255,.../modifier[Raw ev>
  cxl_hmu_mem1.0.1/hotness_granual=0..0xffffffff,hotness_threshold=0..0xffffffff,downsampling_factor=0..255,.../modifier[Raw ev>
  cxl_hmu_mem1.0.2/hotness_granual=0..0xffffffff,hotness_threshold=0..0xffffffff,downsampling_factor=0..255,.../modifier[Raw ev>
  cxl_pmu_mem0.0/vid=0..0xffff,edge,mask=0..0xffffffff,.../modifier[Raw event descriptor]
  cxl_pmu_mem0.1/vid=0..0xffff,edge,mask=0..0xffffffff,.../modifier[Raw event descriptor]
  cxl_pmu_mem1.0/vid=0..0xffff,edge,mask=0..0xffffffff,.../modifier[Raw event descriptor]
  cxl_pmu_mem1.1/vid=0..0xffff,edge,mask=0..0xffffffff,.../modifier[Raw event descriptor]
<snip>

6. Tried running perf command mentioned in Documentation/trace/cxl-hmu.rst

root@QEMUCXL2030mm:/home/cxl/cxl-linux-mainline/tools/perf# perf -v
perf version 6.12.rc5.gc198a4f4a356
root@QEMUCXL2030mm:/home/cxl/cxl-linux-mainline/tools/perf# perf record -a  -e cxl_hmu_mem0.0.0/epoch_type=0,access_type=6,hotness_threshold=1024,epoch_multiplier=4,epoch_scale=4,range_base=0,range_size=1024,randomized_downsampling=0,downsampling_factor=32,hotness_granual=12
event syntax error: '..ess_granual=12'
                                  \___ Unrecognized input



Are there any steps i am missing?

Regards,
Neeraj	 

>>
>> $perf report --dump-raw-traces
>>
>> Example output.  With a counter_width of 16 (0x10) the least significant
>> 4 bytes are the counter value and the unit index is bits 16-63.
>> Here all units are over the threshold and the indexes are 0,1,2 etc.
>>
>> . ... CXL_HMU data: size 33512 bytes
>> Header 0: units: 29c counter_width 10
>> Header 1 : deadbeef
>> 0000000000000283
>> 0000000000010364
>> 0000000000020366
>> 000000000003033c
>> 0000000000040343
>> 00000000000502ff
>> 000000000006030d
>> 000000000007031a
>>
>> Which will produce a list of hotness entries.
>> Bits[N-1:0] counter value
>> Bits[63:N] Unit ID (combine with unit size and DPA base + HDM decoder
>>   config to get to a Host Physical Address)
>>
>> Specific RFC questions.
>> - What should be in the header added to the aux buffer.
>>   Currently just the minimum is provided. Number of records
>>   and the counter width needed to decode them.
>> - Should we reset the counters when doing sampling "-F X"
>>   If the frequency is higher than the epoch we never see any hot units.
>>   If so, when should we reset them?
>>
>> Note testing has been light and on emulation only + as perf tool is
>> a pain to build on a striped back VM,  build testing has all be on
>> arm64 so far.  The driver loads though on both arm64 and x86 so
>> any problems are likely in the perf tool arch specific code
>> which is build tested (on wrong machine)
>>
>> The QEMU emulation needs some cleanup, but I should be able to post
>> that shortly to let people actually play with this.  There are lots
>> of open questions there on how 'right' we want the emulation to be
>> and what counting uarch to emulate.
>>
>> Jonathan Cameron (4):
>>   cxl: Register devices for CXL Hotness Monitoring Units (CHMU)
>>   cxl: Hotness Monitoring Unit via a Perf AUX Buffer.
>>   perf: Add support for CXL Hotness Monitoring Units (CHMU)
>>   hwtrace: Document CXL Hotness Monitoring Unit driver
>>
>>  Documentation/trace/cxl-hmu.rst     | 197 +++++++
>>  Documentation/trace/index.rst       |   1 +
>>  drivers/cxl/Kconfig                 |   6 +
>>  drivers/cxl/Makefile                |   3 +
>>  drivers/cxl/core/Makefile           |   1 +
>>  drivers/cxl/core/core.h             |   1 +
>>  drivers/cxl/core/hmu.c              |  64 ++
>>  drivers/cxl/core/port.c             |   2 +
>>  drivers/cxl/core/regs.c             |  14 +
>>  drivers/cxl/cxl.h                   |   5 +
>>  drivers/cxl/cxlpci.h                |   1 +
>>  drivers/cxl/hmu.c                   | 880 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>  drivers/cxl/hmu.h                   |  23 +
>>  drivers/cxl/pci.c                   |  26 +-
>>  tools/perf/arch/arm/util/auxtrace.c |  58 ++
>>  tools/perf/arch/x86/util/auxtrace.c |  76 +++
>>  tools/perf/util/Build               |   1 +
>>  tools/perf/util/auxtrace.c          |   4 +
>>  tools/perf/util/auxtrace.h          |   1 +
>>  tools/perf/util/cxl-hmu.c           | 367 ++++++++++++
>>  tools/perf/util/cxl-hmu.h           |  18 +
>>  21 files changed, 1748 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>  create mode 100644 Documentation/trace/cxl-hmu.rst
>>  create mode 100644 drivers/cxl/core/hmu.c
>>  create mode 100644 drivers/cxl/hmu.c
>>  create mode 100644 drivers/cxl/hmu.h
>>  create mode 100644 tools/perf/util/cxl-hmu.c
>>  create mode 100644 tools/perf/util/cxl-hmu.h
>>
>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-03 10:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-21 10:18 Jonathan Cameron
2024-11-21 10:18 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] cxl: Register devices for CXL Hotness Monitoring Units (CHMU) Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]   ` <CGME20250103052421epcas5p4a1a917ba5d367dfccec91d4522666ca0@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2025-01-03  5:16     ` Neeraj Kumar
2025-01-03 12:07       ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-19  1:47   ` Yuquan Wang
2025-06-19 10:11     ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-08  8:45   ` Yuquan Wang
2024-11-21 10:18 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] cxl: Hotness Monitoring Unit via a Perf AUX Buffer Jonathan Cameron
2024-11-21 10:18 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] perf: Add support for CXL Hotness Monitoring Units (CHMU) Jonathan Cameron
2024-11-21 10:18 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] hwtrace: Document CXL Hotness Monitoring Unit driver Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]   ` <CGME20250103052702epcas5p3f7eea83ac70ba7147e0de7fb30f90a62@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2025-01-03  5:19     ` Neeraj Kumar
2024-11-21 13:47 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] CXL Hotness Monitoring Unit perf driver Jonathan Cameron
2024-11-21 14:24 ` Gregory Price
2024-11-21 14:58   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-11-21 15:49     ` Gregory Price
2024-11-22 20:08     ` SeongJae Park
2024-11-27 16:34 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-12-04 12:35   ` [EXT] " Ajay Joshi
     [not found]   ` <CGME20250103053521epcas5p30cd4abba59d695664335b03ba806c56d@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2025-01-03  5:27     ` Neeraj Kumar [this message]
2025-01-15 13:42       ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-19  3:59         ` Yuquan Wang
2025-06-19 10:49           ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-24 17:40 ` Jonathan Cameron

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