From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-stable@vger.kernel.org,
Vivek Kasireddy <vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Dave Airlie <airlied@redhat.com>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
Dongwon Kim <dongwon.kim@intel.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Junxiao Chang <junxiao.chang@intel.com>,
Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/gup: restore the ability to pin more than 2GB at a time
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 23:50:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <128d04dd-2d48-4a98-8537-49589b4db1c3@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r07yp0ng.fsf@nvdebian.thelocal>
On 10/29/24 11:18 PM, Alistair Popple wrote:
> John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com> writes:
>> On 10/29/24 9:42 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 09:39:15PM -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
...
>>> Because pinning down these amounts of memoryt is completely insane.
>>> I don't mind the switch to kvmalloc, but we need to put in an upper
>>> bound of what can be pinned.
>>
>> I'm wondering though, how it is that we decide how much of the user's
>> system we prevent them from using? :) People with hardware accelerators
>> do not always have page fault capability, and yet these troublesome
>> users insist on stacking their system full of DRAM and then pointing
>> the accelerator to it.
>>
>> How would we choose a value? Memory sizes keep going up...
>
> The obvious answer is you let users decide. I did have a patch series to
> do that via a cgroup[1]. However I dropped that series mostly because I
> couldn't find any users of such a limit to provide feedback on how they
> would use it or how they wanted it to work.
>
Trawling through the discussion there, I see that Jason Gunthorpe mentioned:
"Things like VFIO & KVM use cases effectively pin 90% of all system memory"
...which means that we'll be able to get that in-tree call trace that
Christoph
is asking for, pretty soon. No GPUs required. :)
thanks,
--
John Hubbard
> - Alistair
>
> [1] - https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/cover.c238416f0e82377b449846dbb2459ae9d7030c8e.1675669136.git-series.apopple@nvidia.com/
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-30 6:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-30 3:01 John Hubbard
2024-10-30 4:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 4:30 ` John Hubbard
2024-10-30 4:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 4:39 ` John Hubbard
2024-10-30 4:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 4:44 ` John Hubbard
2024-10-30 6:18 ` Alistair Popple
2024-10-30 6:50 ` John Hubbard [this message]
2024-10-30 8:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-30 9:01 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-30 18:34 ` John Hubbard
2024-10-31 0:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-31 0:17 ` John Hubbard
2024-10-31 0:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-31 0:47 ` John Hubbard
2024-10-30 12:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-30 17:25 ` John Hubbard
2024-10-30 11:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-30 11:03 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-30 17:29 ` John Hubbard
2024-10-30 17:42 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-30 17:49 ` John Hubbard
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