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From: Jinjiang Tu <tujinjiang@huawei.com>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>, <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	<jhubbard@nvidia.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>, <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	<joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>, <rakie.kim@sk.com>, <byungchul@sk.com>,
	<gourry@gourry.net>, <apopple@nvidia.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Question] get_vma_policy() isn't compatible with {pin, get}_user_pages_remote
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2025 10:51:41 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <12881493-93db-56a6-471c-888051fd94fb@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87cyabxxau.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA>


在 2025/7/8 9:53, Huang, Ying 写道:
> Hi, Jinjiang,
>
> Jinjiang Tu <tujinjiang@huawei.com> writes:
>
>> get_vma_policy() returns the mempolicy for the vma. If the vma has set
>> mempolicy, the policy is returned. Otherwise,
>> call get_task_policy(current) to get the mempolicy of current
>> task. However, it isn't reasonable for
>> pin_user_pages_remote() and get_user_pages_remote() cases.
>>
>> Assume task A calls pin_user_pages_remote() to pin user pages from
>> task B. If the [start, start + nr_pages) isn't
>> populated with pages, handle_mm_fault() will be called by task
>> A. However, if the vma doesn't set memory policy,
>> the mempolicy of task A instead of task B is used to allocate. It
>> seems to be unreasonable. See
>> dequeue_hugetlb_folio_vma()->huge_node().
>>
>> We can only obtain mm in get_vma_policy(), but we couldn't get the
>> task, since a mm can be associated with multiple
>> tasks(threads) and the task mempolicy is at thread granularity.
>>
>> Is this situation reasonable? And if not, how could we fix it?
> Yes.  This sounds like an issue in theory and it's hard to be resolved
> if possible.  Please take a look at get_user_pages_remote() usage in
> exec().

IIUC, exec() replaces current->mm with new mm, and the task_struct isn't changed,
thus task mempolicy is same, so it is reasonable to use get_user_pages_remote() in exec().

> Do you have some practical issue with pin/get_user_pages_remote()?

Yes, I have a driver to pin_user_pages_remote() for other task.

> ---
> Best Regards,
> Huang, Ying


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-08  2:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-08  1:21 Jinjiang Tu
2025-07-08  1:53 ` Huang, Ying
2025-07-08  2:51   ` Jinjiang Tu [this message]
2025-07-08  3:05     ` Huang, Ying
2025-07-09  4:25       ` Jinjiang Tu

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