From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Andrea Righi <arighi@develer.com>
Cc: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mmotm 3/3] memcg: dirty pages instrumentation
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:07:35 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1267610855.25158.82.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100302221434.GB2369@linux>
On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 23:14 +0100, Andrea Righi wrote:
>
> I agree mem_cgroup_has_dirty_limit() is nicer. But we must do that under
> RCU, so something like:
>
> rcu_read_lock();
> if (mem_cgroup_has_dirty_limit())
> mem_cgroup_get_page_stat()
> else
> global_page_state()
> rcu_read_unlock();
>
> That is bad when mem_cgroup_has_dirty_limit() always returns false
> (e.g., when memory cgroups are disabled). So I fallback to the old
> interface.
Why is it that mem_cgroup_has_dirty_limit() needs RCU when
mem_cgroup_get_page_stat() doesn't? That is, simply make
mem_cgroup_has_dirty_limit() not require RCU in the same way
*_get_page_stat() doesn't either.
> What do you think about:
>
> mem_cgroup_lock();
> if (mem_cgroup_has_dirty_limit())
> mem_cgroup_get_page_stat()
> else
> global_page_state()
> mem_cgroup_unlock();
>
> Where mem_cgroup_read_lock/unlock() simply expand to nothing when
> memory cgroups are disabled.
I think you're engineering the wrong way around.
> >
> > That allows for a 0 dirty limit (which should work and basically makes
> > all io synchronous).
>
> IMHO it is better to reserve 0 for the special value "disabled" like the
> global settings. A synchronous IO can be also achieved using a dirty
> limit of 1.
Why?! 0 clearly states no writeback cache, IOW sync writes, a 1
byte/page writeback cache effectively reduces to the same thing, but its
not the same thing conceptually. If you want to put the size and enable
into a single variable pick -1 for disable or so.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-03 10:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-01 21:23 [PATCH -mmotm 0/3] memcg: per cgroup dirty limit (v3) Andrea Righi
2010-03-01 21:23 ` [PATCH -mmotm 1/3] memcg: dirty memory documentation Andrea Righi
2010-03-01 21:23 ` [PATCH -mmotm 2/3] memcg: dirty pages accounting and limiting infrastructure Andrea Righi
2010-03-02 0:20 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-02 10:04 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2010-03-02 11:00 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-02 13:02 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-02 21:50 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-02 18:08 ` Greg Thelen
2010-03-02 22:24 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-01 21:23 ` [PATCH -mmotm 3/3] memcg: dirty pages instrumentation Andrea Righi
2010-03-01 22:02 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-01 22:18 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-02 15:05 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-02 22:22 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-02 23:59 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-03 11:47 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-03 11:56 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-02 0:23 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-02 8:01 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-02 8:12 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-03-02 8:23 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-02 13:50 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-02 22:18 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-02 23:21 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-03-03 11:48 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-02 10:11 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2010-03-02 11:02 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-02 11:09 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2010-03-02 11:34 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-02 13:47 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-02 13:56 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2010-03-02 13:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-02 15:26 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-02 15:49 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-03-02 22:14 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-03 10:07 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-03-03 12:05 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-03 2:12 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-03-03 3:29 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-03 6:01 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-03-03 6:15 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-03 8:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-03 11:50 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-03 22:03 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-03 23:25 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-03-04 3:45 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
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