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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Lubos Lunak <l.lunak@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: Improving OOM killer
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:06:18 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1265213178.1052.50.camel@barrios-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1265209254.1052.24.camel@barrios-desktop>

On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 00:00 +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 17:55 +0530, Balbir Singh wrote:
> > * Lubos Lunak <l.lunak@suse.cz> [2010-02-03 13:10:27]:
> >> >  I don't understand how this matters. Overcommit is memory for which address 
> > > space has been allocated but not actual memory, right? Then that's exactly 
> > > what I'm claiming is wrong and am trying to reverse. Currently OOM killer 
> > > takes this into account because it uses VmSize, but IMO it shouldn't - if a 
> > > process does malloc(400M) but then it uses only a tiny fraction of that, in 
> > > the case of memory shortage killing that process does not solve anything in 
> > > practice.
> > 
> > We have a way of tracking commmitted address space, which is more
> > sensible than just allocating memory and is used for tracking
> > overcommit. I was suggesting that, that might be a better approach.
> 
> Yes. It does make sense. At least total_vm doesn't care about
> MAP_NORESERVE case. But unfortunately, it's a per CPU not per Process.

Sorry for confusing. It was opposite. I slept :)
The commited as doesn't care about MAP_NORESERVE case. 
But it definitely charges memory. so I think total_vm is better than
committed as if we really have to use vmsize heuristic continuously.

But I am not sure that i understand your point about overcommit policy.


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Kind regards,
Minchan Kim


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  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-03 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-01 22:02 Lubos Lunak
2010-02-01 23:53 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-02 21:10   ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-03  1:41     ` David Rientjes
2010-02-03  1:52       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-03  2:12         ` David Rientjes
2010-02-03  2:12           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-03  2:36             ` [patch] sysctl: clean up vm related variable declarations David Rientjes
2010-02-03  8:07               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-03  8:17               ` Balbir Singh
2010-02-03 22:54       ` Improving OOM killer Lubos Lunak
2010-02-04  0:00         ` David Rientjes
2010-02-03  7:50 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-03  9:40   ` David Rientjes
2010-02-03  8:57 ` Balbir Singh
2010-02-03 12:10   ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-03 12:25     ` Balbir Singh
2010-02-03 15:00       ` Minchan Kim
2010-02-03 16:06         ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2010-02-03 21:22       ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-03 14:49 ` Rik van Riel
2010-02-03 17:01   ` Balbir Singh
2010-02-03 18:58     ` David Rientjes
2010-02-03 19:29       ` Frans Pop
2010-02-03 19:52         ` David Rientjes
2010-02-03 20:12           ` Frans Pop
2010-02-03 20:26             ` David Rientjes
2010-02-03 22:55       ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-04  0:05         ` David Rientjes
2010-02-04  0:18           ` Rik van Riel
2010-02-04 21:48             ` David Rientjes
2010-02-04 22:06               ` Rik van Riel
2010-02-04 22:14                 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-10 20:54                   ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-10 21:10                     ` Rik van Riel
2010-02-10 21:29                       ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-10 22:18                       ` Alan Cox
2010-02-10 22:31                         ` David Rientjes
2010-02-11  9:50                         ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-04 22:31               ` Frans Pop
2010-02-04 22:53                 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-04  7:58           ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-04 21:34             ` David Rientjes
2010-02-10 20:54               ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-10 21:09                 ` Rik van Riel
2010-02-10 21:34                   ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-10 22:25                 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-11 10:16                   ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-11 21:17                     ` David Rientjes
2010-02-04  9:50           ` Jiri Kosina
2010-02-04 21:39             ` David Rientjes
2010-02-05  7:35               ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-10  3:10                 ` David Rientjes

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