From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
cl@linux-foundation.org,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"mingo@elte.hu" <mingo@elte.hu>,
minchan.kim@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [mm][RFC][PATCH 0/11] mm accessor updates.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:57:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1261004224.21028.500.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091216193109.778b881b.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 19:31 +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> The problem of range locking is more than mmap_sem, anyway. I don't think
> it's possible easily.
We already have a natural range lock in the form of the split pte lock.
If we make the vma lookup speculative using RCU, we can use the pte lock
to verify we got the right vma, because munmap requires the pte lock to
complete the unmap.
The fun bit is dealing with the fallout if we got it wrong, since we
might then have instantiated page-tables not covered by a vma just to
take the pte lock, it also requires we RCU free the page-tables iirc.
There are a few interesting cases like stack extention and hugetlbfs,
but I think we could start by falling back to mmap_sem locked behaviour
if the speculative thing fails.
As to the proposed patches, I tend to agree that simply wrapping the
mmap_sem semantics in different accessors is pointless, expressing the
same semantics in different ways really doesn't help.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-16 22:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-16 3:00 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:01 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 1/11] mm accessor for replacing mmap_sem KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:02 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 2/11] mm accessor for kernel core KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:03 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 3/11] mm accessor for fs KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:04 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 4/11] mm accessor for kvm KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:05 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 5/11] mm accessor for tomoyo KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:06 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 6/11] mm accessor for driver/gpu KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:07 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 7/11] mm accessor for inifiniband KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:08 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 8/11] mm accessor for video KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:09 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 9/11] mm accessor for sgi gru KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:10 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 10/11] mm accessor for misc drivers KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:11 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 11/11] mm accessor for x86 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 10:11 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 0/11] mm accessor updates Andi Kleen
2009-12-16 10:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 10:28 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-16 10:31 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 10:49 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-16 11:12 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 11:31 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-16 16:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-12-16 23:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-17 4:11 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-17 8:41 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-16 22:57 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-12-17 8:40 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-17 8:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-17 8:54 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-17 14:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-17 15:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-17 17:53 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-17 19:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-17 19:55 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-17 19:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-12-17 20:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-17 20:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-12-18 5:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-18 17:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-18 17:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-18 18:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-12-18 18:43 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-18 18:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-18 23:18 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-17 19:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-12-17 20:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-17 20:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-12-17 20:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-16 10:31 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-16 10:33 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-18 0:38 ` [RFC 0/4] speculative page fault (Was " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-18 0:41 ` [RFC 1/4] uninline mm accessor KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-18 0:43 ` [RFC 2/4] add mm event counter KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-19 3:23 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-19 6:37 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-18 0:45 ` [RFC 3/4] lockless vma caching KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-19 3:43 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-19 6:44 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-18 0:46 ` [RFC 4/4] speculative pag fault KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-18 5:54 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-18 6:06 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-18 6:33 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-19 3:55 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-19 6:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 16:24 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 0/11] mm accessor updates Christoph Lameter
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